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<blockquote data-quote="tristan" data-source="post: 12886" data-attributes="member: 30"><p>good info. you should put your head up a bit more <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>so its 1.5:1 mix, 4 staples per brood box. 55c. your in low humidity southland. i would be interested to see the difference between the gib tape and the card board, but it sounds like theres not much difference. the no drying is interesting which i agree with.</p><p></p><p>the humdity factor is something i think i need to look more into. the bit of testing i've seen so far shows more acid comes out when humidity shoots up (ie due to rain) when the bees can't control it.</p><p></p><p>randys pads instead of staples is due to them running double broods and its far far easier to throw a pad in between the brood boxes than to put strips in.</p><p>but he has done some testing of the beequip staples.</p><p></p><p>afaik maggi's info went into Aluen cap which is the only one i know of that you can buy (overseas). but it uses 2:1 ratio and people have claimed bee deaths from it. so i would not call it a done deal just yet.</p><p>i think the 1.5:1 ratio is better (many thanks to whoever tested that out).</p><p></p><p>trouble is i keep hearing good success stories but also many failures. but little info on what or why it failed.</p><p>getting the mix wrong, overheating the mix. getting to much water in it (from humidity). not getting enough in the strips (cold room, not soaking long enough). plenty of possibilities but no common culprit. </p><p></p><p>how long the strips last is another question. i don't know how long the gib tape lasts in the hive. the cardboards last 4 weeks and then its torn down. unfortunately some people claim it lasts 12 weeks. incidentally randys testing was to replace them at 4 weeks.</p><p></p><p>the other thing thats throwing a curve ball is the amount of hives being not treated or abandoned due to the downturn of beekeeping. if your getting reinvasion after treatment it makes it look like the treatment didn't work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tristan, post: 12886, member: 30"] good info. you should put your head up a bit more ;) so its 1.5:1 mix, 4 staples per brood box. 55c. your in low humidity southland. i would be interested to see the difference between the gib tape and the card board, but it sounds like theres not much difference. the no drying is interesting which i agree with. the humdity factor is something i think i need to look more into. the bit of testing i've seen so far shows more acid comes out when humidity shoots up (ie due to rain) when the bees can't control it. randys pads instead of staples is due to them running double broods and its far far easier to throw a pad in between the brood boxes than to put strips in. but he has done some testing of the beequip staples. afaik maggi's info went into Aluen cap which is the only one i know of that you can buy (overseas). but it uses 2:1 ratio and people have claimed bee deaths from it. so i would not call it a done deal just yet. i think the 1.5:1 ratio is better (many thanks to whoever tested that out). trouble is i keep hearing good success stories but also many failures. but little info on what or why it failed. getting the mix wrong, overheating the mix. getting to much water in it (from humidity). not getting enough in the strips (cold room, not soaking long enough). plenty of possibilities but no common culprit. how long the strips last is another question. i don't know how long the gib tape lasts in the hive. the cardboards last 4 weeks and then its torn down. unfortunately some people claim it lasts 12 weeks. incidentally randys testing was to replace them at 4 weeks. the other thing thats throwing a curve ball is the amount of hives being not treated or abandoned due to the downturn of beekeeping. if your getting reinvasion after treatment it makes it look like the treatment didn't work. [/QUOTE]
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