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Discussion in 'Bees in the Media' started by Phil46, Mar 6, 2017.

  1. Sil29er

    Sil29er Pupa Donor 2016 Hobbyist

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    What was more illustrative of the way Comvita works was the fact that they left their landowner to defend himself and the company, but they couldn't even face the cameras. A bit of brainwashing? How do they explain to their guy that even if the ratio is 1 hive per hectare, why do they put 200?? Just not a very good look....
     
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  2. yesbut

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    If I'd been involved I wouldn't even have told Fairgo the time. Innuendo, pretty scenery, emotion, no substance,
    what's the TV term for "click bait" ?
     
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  3. Daley

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    He's not brainwashed, he's got a huge cash incentive.
    Bet he didn't say how much they were paying for the privilege, if he's getting money per hive he'd be thrilled to have so many.
    I haven't even watched it because it doesn't sound like I missed much.

    Would I put 200 hives on 20 hectares, gosh no..
     
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  4. Kiwifruiter

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    If the 20ha was 100m wide and 20 km long I would ;)
     
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  5. Chris Valentine

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    Any one can go onto the wanganui district web page and have a look at
    The mapping site it show up block of land just like fair go did
    I took screen shot of my computer
    Have a play around and look for your self at what land there is around the one high light is the one with the 200 hives on it
     

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  6. Daley

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    Depends.
    I do all my sites using this
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    I have a good look and ask around to see who is already around. Then I measure on Distance Tool on my phone by dropping a pin where the nearest hives are and see how far I am away, and get an idea of where my bees will be foraging.

    Your right it's not really about the size of land and the stocking it's more the shape of it and the availability of forage, but when the hives are on Manuka honey over the fence and there is a lot of money up for grabs it turns in to an ugly issue.
     
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  7. Ted

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    Just trying to get confirmation of their often stated policy of only placing hives in numbers relative to the resource on the land that they occupy - not the surrounding lands.

    20ha is 20ha regardless of the shape.
     
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  8. frazzledfozzle

    frazzledfozzle Field Bee Donor 2016 Platinum Donor '17 Commercial

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    I think if @Charles was responsible for the placement of those particular hives then he should provide an answer but I wouldn't expect him to take responsibility for someone else's decisions.

    Comvita is like a lot of honey producers both big and small in that they really don't give too hoots about who's around or how many hives are in an area.
    I don't see how overstocking can be good for your business but a lot seem to be doing it.
    Comvita try to make out in their advertising that they are a grassroots company, started by a humble man with the vision of providing bee products for health and wellness.
    The company we see today does not in any way embody the philosophy of Claude Stratford who founded it.
     
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  9. Ted

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    100% agree. Claude would be horrified at what has become of his dream.
     
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  10. Daley

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    I wonder what they would say if you rang their 0800 number and asked them :D:rofl:
     
  11. Philbee

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    Lol, Kiwifruiter
    Its a very easy mistake to make and Ive done the same,
    20Ha 100m wide is only 2km long
     
  12. Kiwifruiter

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    Fine then, Be good at maths :-P
     
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  13. Philbee

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    In some cases a balanced is reached like in a situation I have.
    A Bush block of mine has a 2 km boundary with a pastoral block.
    I have hives all along that boundary because that is where the track is.
    A corporate has hives on the pastoral block albeit set back from the boundary, mainly due to logistical considerations.
    In spring it is a given that the corporates bees will be on my block foraging 5 finger and Heather and in later summer my bees will be over at their place on clover.
    Everyone is happy, more or less.

    However if it was a Manuka issue and someone was poaching my Manuka then I would open feed pure clean 50/50 syrup.
    A harmless way to discourage opportunistic nectar thieves.
    In the short term it would cost me a Manuka crop but would make a very clear point.
    The nectar thieves would be advised of course.

    Like I said KFer its a very easy mistake to make.
     
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  14. kaihoka

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    its hypocrisy that irritates
    it turns marginally acceptable behavior completely unacceptable
     
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  15. Rob Stockley

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    There're a few terms: 20/20, 60 Minutes, Target and of course, Fair Go
     
  16. frazzledfozzle

    frazzledfozzle Field Bee Donor 2016 Platinum Donor '17 Commercial

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    With bright blue colouring
     
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  17. Charl

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  18. Kiwifruiter

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    Im picking that the new manuka standard will fix a fair few of these problems.....
     
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  19. Dennis Crowley

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    Some of those outside firms now own land in the area so are now "the locals".
     
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  20. frazzledfozzle

    frazzledfozzle Field Bee Donor 2016 Platinum Donor '17 Commercial

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    Which is exactly the scenario shown in the fair go clip.
    Guy buys land to put beehives on then complains because comvita put 200 hives on the boundary which they have done for years before he bought his property.
     
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