NZBF: dead brood outside of hive

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  1. bazz

    bazz Egg Beginner

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    hay guys ive been away with work for 4 weeks and just checked on my hive i shifted due to robbing.
    on inspecting i seen dead brood on the ground in front, bodys intack still?
    as well worker bees dismembered?
    is this still from robbing or wasps? didn't see any wasps around.
    all honey is gone to.
     
  2. GoDamit

    GoDamit Larva Beginner

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    From what I have seen on the net, robbed honey from the frame should be easy to spot. Robbing bees tear the cappings up and drop them on the bottom board, bees in their own hive take care when uncapping honey.
    If brood is dying for any number of reasons, workers will uncap them and dispose of them outside the hive.
     
  3. Daley

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    Have they had an autumn varroa treatment?
     
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  4. bazz

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    no not yet. ive been away so havnt been able to put strips in
     
  5. bazz

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    there is no capping and no honey, all the frames looked good, no tearing.
     
  6. Alastair

    Alastair Guard Bee Donor 2016 Semi Commercial Platinum Donor '17

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    The 3 main reasons for dead brood out front are brood being damaged by varroa mites, bees dumping larvae because they are starving, or drone larvae being dumped. After those, brood killed by chilling is also removed during the cleanup phase.
     
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  7. bazz

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    thanks for the help alastair
     
  8. Daley

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    Could you take a few pics maybe of what's there?
    If it's got any chance of survival it will need some varroa strips as soon as possible

    How many frames covered with bees are left, and how many frames or part frames of brood
     
  9. AdamD

    AdamD Pupa International Beekeeper

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    If varroa is a major problem you will probably see bees that don't get out of the frames with their tongues sticking out. So, dead bees in cells. If there's no food, then the bees won't be able to feed the larvae. Is there ANY food at all?
    if you suspect robbing, close the hive up at night. (Give them some syrup if the have no food too) and see in the morning whether bees are around the entrance. If bees are present, then they will be from another hive and you have your answer.
     
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  10. bazz

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    sorry for the late reply been away for work again. i put varroa strips in and a top feeder on the 17th .
    its 2 full depth boxes with 4 frames full of bees on the bottom and 4 on top.
    all frames are part brood some capped butnot many
     
  11. bazz

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    cheers mate good advice. will let u know what the out come is
     

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