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  1. So if you can sell yours at NZ$800 you better be looking at exporting.
  2. Ben this somewhat similar device is selling for $2,700 Canadian VMeliminator WWW.VMELIMINATOR.COM Here's one even more similar to yours but I couldn't price it, but as memory serves it is over US 2k So
  3. Back in 2014 i had a major outbreak, which coincided with making a lot of increase and nucs up from seemingly clear hives so I ended up with AFB popping up all over the place, one day alone I burned 17 hives. Soul destroying, i came within a hairs breath of quitting bees. So I went hard core quarantine. Numbered every single box, and harvested the honey on site with one of those scraper things that were in vogue back then, every frame and box went back onto the same hive nothing was interchanged. I didn't even take boxes away from the sites, hives were wintered in some cases 4 or 5 high. Each hive had a full AFB check 5 times per year. The cost of this whole thing was enormous. Hired Jameses sniffer dog. Even with all that, AFB kept popping up it is amazing how long it can be dormant in a hive. I ran hives as near starvation as I could in early spring to try to get them to consume all old honey. It took 2 more years to totally eliminate it. Have not had a case now for 3 years. If i had not gone hard, i would probably still have the disease. That is why i am a strong supporter of the current AFBPMP regimen. As one who has been burned, and badly, I know the value, and protection, I am getting from my levy money.
  4. Best cafe fight I saw was not over a table, but a newspaper. Lady was reading the paper, then got up to go order something else. While she was at the counter, another lady took the paper and starts reading it. First lady comes back and, no paper. She scopes around and sees the other lady reading it so goes up to her, tells her in a loud voice that she was incredibly rude, and demands the paper back. Second lady refuses. Loud standoff ensues, both ladies were obviously used to getting their own way and neither would back off. So the cafe owner intervenes, but no joy. So he says don't worry and he runs down the road to the dairy and buys another paper, comes in with it and gives it to the first lady. But can you believe, she refuses it, saying it's the principle of the thing. She will accept nothing less than the other lady handing back THAT paper. Both these ladies were unable to be seen to back down, in any way. I cannot imagine what life would be like for either of the husbands . Eventually the lady who "stole" the paper got up and left, the other lady took that paper, and the other paper sat idle on the table.
  5. Yes, I'm not flushing the toilet every time .
  6. Here's the web site of a bee hire business. Scroll down near the bottom to get their prices. https://hirehives.nz/
  7. Just going to jump in here and say if you have AFB, do report it. This enables the management agency to see if there is a problem in an area that should be investigated by an AP2. All AP2's do is look through hives to find AFB. The beekeeper is then advised if it is found and told what to do. The management agency in the first instance see their role as assisting beekeepers, and a beekeeper with AFB is given advice, and possibly help, to deal with the problem. It is only when there is a raging, out of control problem, and normally an uncooperative beekeeper, that the agency has to step in and remove control measures from the beekeeper and deal with it themselves, which may involve burning of gear that is considered likely to be a source of ongoing infection. AP2's are only allowed to take such actions if specifically instructed by an AP1. And by the time it gets to that stage, wether the management agency got involved or not, the end result if things had followed their natural course, would probably have been the write off of all the equipment anyway. In pretty much every case where this has occured it has taken several years for the beekeeper to get into such a bad state. If the beekeeper had reported to the management agency earlier in the piece, or asked for their assistance, the matter could have probably been resolved at small cost to both the beekeeper, and the agency. Example, I know of a case some years back where a commercial beekeeper only one year in found what he thought was 8 cases of AFB. He contacted the management agency and an AP2 was sent to inspect all his hives. The AFB was confirmed and dealt with, and more advice was given. The beekeeper was able to wipe out the infestation early, at a minimum cost, and went on to be a successful beekeeper. Could have been very different had he turned a blind eye to the problem. This whole thing was set up by beekeepers, for beekeepers. Report AFB if you find it, do yourself and others a favour.
  8. That is an issue only if the incubator is set up wrong. I doubt that David and some of the other pros would have such issues. I also found that queens whose hatch time was delayed by badly tuned incubator were not as vigorous, and best I could tell given the other variables, tended towards lower mating %.
  9. Good point John and I think it is that fear that is driving some of the anti. I can't speak for the AFBPMP, but was at a meeting where this was discussed and it was clear from the answers given that the AFBPMP have no intention of victimising someone not in breach of their DECA in that way. If you look hard enough you would probably find AFB spores on the floor of many bee sheds. Not to mention truck decks, yet those beeks will rarely have symptomatic AFB. And if they do get it, they eliminate it. In the case mentioned a few posts back, the reason for the burning was it was felt that the beekeeper involved had already shown he could not be relied on to deal with more AFB if it arose due to him using the infected boxes. Each case is judged on it's merits, and it may well be that had a different beekeeper been able to forward a plan how he would deal with any resultant AFB, he may have been allowed to keep the boxes. Even though in my opinion, anyone would be rather silly to use those boxes.
  10. I don't know which particular case the Waikato branch is referring to. But it sounds very much like a case that has already been publicly commented on in the Beekeeper magazine, so I can comment. In that case, it was a several hundred hive outfit with out of control AFB that was brought to the attention of the AFBPMP after several neighbouring beekeepers started getting AFB all around him. Upon inspection by some AP2's they found that one hive in every three had AFB. Several hundred hives. The infected hives were burned by the AP2's. The beekeeper could understand the need for that. But then, it was realised that honey boxes had been taken off the hives, extracted, and then stored in a shed. The beekeeper did not know which boxes came off which hives. Unfortunately, around a third of the boxes in the shed were likely to be infected with AFB. Putting them back on hives next season would have unleashed another wave of AFB. Because the beekeeper had clearly not been doing his job of monitoring and destroying AFB infected hives and had let the disease run rampant, the decision what to do with the boxes was taken out of his hands and all the boxes were burned. Because this represented a huge financial loss to the beekeeper he convinced other beekeepers he was a vistim of huge injustice and attempted to rally support against the AFBPMP. But to consider the situation logically, what would have been the outcome if the boxes had not been burned. Almost certainly it would have eventually cost that beekeeper more, not to mention his neighbours. Re the reference to floor scrapings, it is true that floor scrapings were taken from the shed and found to have AFB spores. But it was not just that that caused the boxes to be burned, it was the whole situation I have described. To put a personal perspective on it, what would you or I do if we had a shed full of boxes and 1 in 3 of them had AFB. Me anyway, I would not be putting them on my hives. Hard as it would be, I'd burn them. Loose money to save money.
  11. No. The AFBPMP does not just find a few spores on the floor then burn every box in the shed. This sort of claptrap is why I can not in good conscience financially support NZ Beekeeping inc. Very sorry. Because I very much respect some members, and some of the things that NZ beekeeping inc have done, and are doing. But the bizzare attitude to the long needed anti AFB measures that are being undertaken is a great shame. Can't complain that "nothing is being done about AFB", then complain when something is.
  12. I've put a bid on this. https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2595751289&rsqid=8d72478e9e624ad7bb9abcf4fee58a2e-005
  13. Thanks Phil, very kind of you. That was certainly a good score for $250. I won't borrow it though, you have inspired me to keep an eye on Trade Me, let's see what sort of stick welder I might be able to pick up . Since it looks like no way to get a decent MIG with the extras I would want, in the needed price range. My current welder is a cheapy 140 amp max, although as per Tristan I don't think it's a genuine 140 amps. It can run at best a 2.6 mm rod but that is pretty sketchy.
  14. Thanks for that Tristan. This whole thing is turning out to be more involved and expensive than I had thought. I really only want the welder for one job and financially it's starting to look non viable, may be cheaper to just go to an engineer. But I'll hold off the decision until after my visit with you. Still got a few months till busy with the bees again so plenty of time.
  15. Oh, that's handy to know Yesbut, problem solved.
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