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  1. On 19/11/2020 at 9:55 PM, jamesc said:

    Not sure we need another big year .... I still got the last big Rata year sitting in the shed

    James, I think that rata, a good smoothly granulated rata, is one of the finest honeys in the world.  While I might personally think of it as priceless, I do hope you get the price you want...

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  2. 16 hours ago, dansar said:

    New Zealanders propensity to top the tall poppies?

    Sadly, in N.Z., I think it is simply that there has been little effort to preserve our beekeeping history.  The industry has just never been large or important enough for anyone to focus on ensuring the continued availability of the old books.  After all, "Everything is on the Internet"...  

     

    And for sure, if you're going to read these old materials, you need to be clearly aware of the *current* conditions and practices for such things as AFB control and the (then quite indiscriminate) use of agricultural chemicals.

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  3. I just returned from a short time in Wellington, where I again took the opportunity to visit the National Library/Alexander Turnbull Libraries.

     

    Edgar Earp was one of the very first apiary staff in NZ.  Upon his retirement (?) in the late 1930s, he donated his own collection of books and other items - about 400 items in all.

     

    They are not really easy to get at - you can't just browse them on the shelf.  You have to order them from the catalog.  But to be able to hold the programme for the 1913 beekeeper's conference in your hands, with E.A. Earp's signature stamp on it - pretty amazing.

     

    I'm hoping at some point to make some of his earlier writings more available.  Earp worked through that period when AFB was to be controlled under legislation - but control often meant 'shook swarming', a less than effective measure to eliminate disease from one's colonies...

     

     

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  4. This photo from a few years ago now - one of my favourites.

     

    Ian Berry once said to me that when he was at the NBA conference each year, it felt like he was with his family.  His smile in this photo says it all.

     

    I've got several photos of Kevin Ecroyd when he was only a child.  He and his sister used to get used in a range of honey-promoting photographic advertisements.

     

     

    WWW.GUARDIANONLINE.CO.NZ

    Beekeepers from far and wide celebrated their centennial year at the annual conference on Sunday, welcoming New Zealand funny man Te...

     

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  5. 13 hours ago, NickWallingford said:

    In 1910 Mr W Lenz had extended his operations to Taranaki, but in 1913 decided to sell his Taranaki holdings. A small co-operative was formed to buy the bees to sell them out to the members in lots, and to act as a marketing operation. The New Zealand Co-op Honey Producers' Association Ltd (HPA) was formed by HW Gilling (Matapu), HR Penny (Okaiawa), GH Buckeridge (of Eltham, the agent of the Farmers' Co-operative Organisation Society, which handled produce for export to England on consignment), HW Warcup (Hawera), HB Nicholas (Hawera), AR Bates (Kaponga), WJ Melville (Kaponga) and CE Grainger (Te Kiri) on 17 December 1913. It was initially built around the packing operation of Mr HW Gilling in Hawera.
    There was no initial capital, with share capital being obtained by deductions from payments for honey supplied. Payments to members were financed by bank overdrafts secured by Joint and Several Guarantee for £8,000 by the Directors and by advances on honey shipped to the Company’s British agents.

    Notice that even as early as this, Allan Bates was active in the bee industry...  He was involved for more than 60 years, and would have seen many changes...

  6. In 1910 Mr W Lenz had extended his operations to Taranaki, but in 1913 decided to sell his Taranaki holdings. A small co-operative was formed to buy the bees to sell them out to the members in lots, and to act as a marketing operation. The New Zealand Co-op Honey Producers' Association Ltd (HPA) was formed by HW Gilling (Matapu), HR Penny (Okaiawa), GH Buckeridge (of Eltham, the agent of the Farmers' Co-operative Organisation Society, which handled produce for export to England on consignment), HW Warcup (Hawera), HB Nicholas (Hawera), AR Bates (Kaponga), WJ Melville (Kaponga) and CE Grainger (Te Kiri) on 17 December 1913. It was initially built around the packing operation of Mr HW Gilling in Hawera.
    There was no initial capital, with share capital being obtained by deductions from payments for honey supplied. Payments to members were financed by bank overdrafts secured by Joint and Several Guarantee for £8,000 by the Directors and by advances on honey shipped to the Company’s British agents.

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  7. In the late 1970s, only a few years or so after I came to NZ to work as a beekeeper, I had the chance to meet Allan Bates.

     

    At the time, Allan was in his late 80s.  He had started beekeeping in Taranaki before the first war, and he even attended the first NBA Conference ever, in 1912.  He served on the NBA Executive on numerous occasions over the years, and as president for two years in the early 1920s.  He was made a Life Member by the NZ in 1960.  At some point, he moved to Matamata and was a well-respected queen breeder.

     

    So I met Allan Bates at a Waikato Field Day - I can't quite place which year it was!  Russell Poole was delivering an address to the crowd of beekeepers, loud enough that all could hear him well - he told of the Honey Marketing Authority, somewhat beleagured by that time by the honey industry.

     

    So the whole crowd could hear Russell Poole just fine.  All except for Allan Bates.  He sat in a chair immediately in front of Russell, and he had a massive ear trumpet.  I have never seen one before or since.  But Allan sat there with this device sticking up into Russell's face as he spoke, with a continual "What?  What was that you just said?  What?"  Russell held his composure and finished his remarks.

     

    Allan died a few years later, in 1979.

     

    So it amazes me that I met him.  I probably shook his hand.  But sure didn't know he'd been such an important part of the beekeeping industry for about 40 years before I was even born...

     

     

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  8. 10 hours ago, tristan said:

    keep in mind that testing only works with those that sell their own honey.

    many brands are made up of a lot of different beeks honey. eg it can be 30 different beeks honey in that jar. which one had the afb ?

    Again, hives are not going to be destroyed because of a positive test.  It would only alert the agency to better target the inspections that will happen.

     

    18 hours ago, morporks said:

    My point is that there are too many questions/possibility about the  AFB testing of honey sample to make claims that a positive sample means the beekeeper in non compliant with the AFB PMP

    A positive honey sample from a packer will not be the basis burning hives, and it is malicious to imply that .  The testing will be used to better target inspections that might follow. 

     

    Arguing about how the results came to be is sort of interesting, but beside the real intention - improving tools and procedures to identify elements that have and do lead to the spread of AFB...

     

    I have a hard time understanding the mindset, seemingly encouraging beekeepers to stay just barely on the right side of the line of what could be deemed 'illegal', then challenging the agency to make the determination of which side of the line the beekeeper is on.

     

    My children used to do similar in the car's back seat: "She put her hand on my side!" "No I didn't. I had it as close to the middle as I could, but still on my side!  You can't get me for that!".

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  9. 13 hours ago, tristan said:

    as always its best practice to afb check before splitting.

    Or any other removal/swapping of equipment.  And base it on risk: think about how many hives might end up with the equipment.  I remember one of Mark Goodwin's explanations, giving (I think???) the example of equalising brood between two hives.  You put two hives at risk, so you should take reasonable care in inspecting.  But take a box of honey from what turns out to be an AFB hive and the risk goes up to 8 or more hives put into possible risk.  Any removal or swapping of equipment is a time to remember (possible) consequences - and if the risk is higher, make your inspections more thorough accordingly!

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  10. 7 hours ago, john berry said:

    If you put a ripe cell in at the same time as you make the nuke up they are less likely to start raising queens of their own and I believe less likely to swarm. Every area and every hive is different so you can only generalise when it comes to swarming.

    I found with small nucs - polystyrene box type - that putting the cell in as you put the cup of bees in worked well.  It seemed to 'anchor' the bees a bit better, rather than them just drifting off as soon as they could...

  11. Ripe cells are somewhat resilient.  We used to carry them in a small chilly bin with a warm water bottle underneath a towel.  Another outfit I worked for had a special box of queenless bees to keep the temperature steady throughout the day of distributing ripe cells.  By this stage of development, the almost ready to emerge queens should be able to tolerate some temperature changes, but try to keep them warm - just like the middle of the brood nest...

  12. 1 hour ago, Phil46 said:

    Kia ora mo tena korero John,thats good to know i can insert cells as i make up the nucs .

    And i will be taking nucs out to another apiary once they are all made up,will that disturb the cell too much? They will be inside my vehicle not bounced around on a trailer.

    No, that sounds fine.  Bees are amazingly resilient, really.  More likely to lead to loss would be a too-early-too-often look to see if there are any eggs, leading as @john berry says the 'balling' of the queen.  With a 'reasonable' cluster of bees (more than a mere handful), stores and esp. still emerging bees, the virgin should be well catered for.  

     

    Queen cells are funny things - amazingly tolerant of bumps and bounces at some stages, but incredibly delicate at other stages of development.  We put out a bunch of 2 day old cells with one outfit I worked for, but if you were too early or too late, queenless nucs wouldn't accept them (possibly related to the larvae being dislodged from the bed of royal jelly?)

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