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Jamo last won the day on April 30 2019

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  1. Are you going to share this new trick or is it a secret?
  2. My wax melter is a copy of a finlay melter with a few little changes to make it better. It cost about 4k about 15 years ago. There is quite a bit of time involved with refining beeswax and dealing with slumgum. Bottom line is that at $7 /kg you have to pour off a lot of blocks before you pay for your melter and wages and actually start to make a profit from wax.
  3. When you travel to different parts of the world you come across some interesting toilet arrangements. One unique one was at the Belt rodeo in Montana USA. The rodeo was a very low key local event but obviously a significant event and very well attended. Went into the men's and there was a water trough in the middle of the room that everyone stood around. There was netting over top of it which I guess stoped people falling in as everyone got more drunk as the day went on. As the day went on I started to wonder if the trough was big enough. There were separate plywood stalls for number 2s which had a seat over a long open trough that served all the stalls, best not to look down. The stalls had curtains but they were a bit short and quite high so not so effective when you were sitting. The whole setup was probably quite suited for a once a year event and is one of a number of unique memories I have of American rodeos
  4. I think that is what is happening through the umf group and it's levy system but it needs the support of the Industary bodies. I Agree that Manuka has created a number of negative outcomes but there have been positives as well.
  5. For the sake of debate it could be argued that seen as a major part of the bee Industary is based on Manuka honey protecting its position should be high on the list. I realise that those who are producing other honeys and are not able to sell it at a price that covers costs may disagree.
  6. Agree that the jute could be interesting. Definitely on my list of things to try next season
  7. But I can just get the water out of the tap. Regarding the hot water cylinder yes anything is doable but there are complication running the circulating pump and a controller if there is no power. In my younger days I was right into developing complex systems to overcome problems but now that I am older I find myself looking for simple solutions more and more. Unfortunately simple doesn't always cut the mustard .
  8. I am getting the feeling that we have talked about incubator backup systems before. My incubator is big enough to hold 100 litres of water and loses about 1 degree in a 10 hour power cut. A different problem I almost had during this season's hotter than normal late spring was that the circulating fan I have inside what is a well insulated box was generating more heat than I was losing as the temp difference inside and outside the box during the day was sometimes quite low. My monitoring system picked up the problem before it became a big problem and I wired the fan into the temp controller. No system is perfect but over the years I have seen more cells lost to virgins than to incubator issues so I stick with my incubator.
  9. Good luck sorting through all the opinions on this topic all of which will have some merrit. One thing that I am quite sure of though is that in the very near future their will be many custom bee rigs appearing on the 2nd hand market. Happy shopping.
  10. I am of the opinion that ox / gly will likely become a key part of many beekeeping operations and is already for quite a few. Unlike synthetic treatments that are registered and can There for be invested in and developed oxalic glycerine strips will need to be developed by innovative beekeepers and while there is much promise there is also much to learn. The open information sharing, learning and development that happened on this site over the last few years was quite amazing in this rather competitive and often cutthroat Industary. Considering how significant the mite issue is to many of our livelihoods I was somewhat disappointed that one of the key driver's of this development who certainly invested more effort, time, and money than anyone else and shared much of his knowledge with us here was removed as things have certainly slowed sinse, maybe it is just the off season.
  11. Seen as you are looking for opinion I will offer mine, but first I have to say that I do not agree with people plonking commercial numbers of hives close to existing commercial sized apiaries. I also feel that a hobbyist with a few hives can't realisticly expect to have a whole area to themselves but a decient commercial beekeeper should be reasonable about where they put hives in order to give the hobbyist a fair go. Having said that it has been my observation that very often hobbyists blame the big bad commercial beehives for robbing out their hives almost as though they are a different species . Generally, as harsh as it may sound, a hive only gets robbed out after it has been mismanaged ie mites not controlled, split too small, hive left queenless etc. The reality is that many new beekeepers (hobbyist and others) don't realise or underestimate what is involved in keeping hives healthy and functioning throughout the season's. I don't want to necessarily discourage hobbyist beekeepers from having hives but I am over having my hives blamed for robbing out hives that have been mismanaged by overly optimistic and under educated / experienced beekeepers who have often plonked their hives far too close to my long established apiaries. The last thing that I want is my hives robbing out these crappy hives.
  12. We have a semi auto boujtela pricker that is an older one but has been reprogrammed with new plc. It is a very good machine. While an automatic pricker might be nice I don't think that we put through enough honey to justify the cost or the hassles when the semi can do 200 plus boxes day, day after day with virtually not issues. Our extractor is a 16 fm beetech. Great machine, done heaps of boxes over the years. Have done a few little mods to it but overall very minimal maintanance. They are unfortunately not available new any more and if anyone wants to sell one I want to buy one. Wax separation is where we do things a little different to most. We have a French built wax press under our uncapper which gets virtually all of the honey out of the wax but not all of the wax out of the honey. The honey from the press joins the honey from the extractor and goes through a heat exchanger then goes into a selfcleaning wedge wire filter from hd process. This has a 100 micron slot type screen which is not the same as a 100 micron mesh but gets the honey pretty good. We had to significantly modify it to get it working reliably but it is now brilliant. The new filters from hd work quite differently and are probably much better. when working with a press the porrage from the filter goes back into the press by simply opening a valve for as long as it takes to prick 1 or 2 frames every 10 minutes or so. The filter is a closed unit and requires no cleaning. It is simply turned on in the morning and off when you finish. It wasn't always this easy but it is now. Before the self cleaning filter we had one of the original beetech spinfloats which worked ok when running with the press under the uncapper and did not need to cut much wax. This spinfloat is still in the corner of my shed and is for sale if anyone wants it. This year I added a filter bag housing inline after my thermalizer / pasturizer heat exchanger and with a 400 micron bag puts through 100 drums between filter cleans and could do more. Pumps are a mix of flexible vein mencerali. Sliding vein boutelja. And progressive cavity. They all have their pros and cons and are matched to their applications. Few other bits and pieces like dryer, mixing tank, wax melter, deboxer. Quite a few $ of Shiney stuff.
  13. Tristan has a pretty good list of stuff above. Like he says different guys have different needs. We do things a little different to most but right now have to take the kid for a pony ride before it gets dark. Try to list our gear later.
  14. We extracted about 300 drums of honey this season and ended up with about 3 fish bins of broken frames, more than normal but probably because many boxes were chocka full. Frame lugs tend to break when the boss is not looking and full boxes get droped down rarther that placed down when pulling honey out in the field. Some damage is unavoidable and not worth worrying about but some crews are much rougher than others. We do break some frames in the extracting room but not many. One of the guys I extract for told be that we break only 10% of the frames that is old extraction team used to so I guess it varies. Broken frames get the honey and wax scraped off into the wax press. Any broken lugs that we don't spot get chewed up and spat out by our press but can damage or jam the lighter built paradise type presses. Loose nails can be an issue in pumps but usually fall to the bottom of our sump before the pump. Biggest thing with broken or falling apart gear is that it "annoys" the extraction team and you may be told not to come back next year. If anyone asked for a credit for the odd broken frame that we cause they would likely be told where to go or what to do with the frame, nicely of cause although the lads may be a little more direct.
  15. So the drums don't pop is the short answer. Needs to be a well controlled process to avoid damage to the honey but when done right will be less damaging than leaving boxes of honey in the warm room over the weekend. We are getting quite good at it now. Been doing it for nearly 20 yrs. Also most packers do it but they call it melting the crystals to avoid that nasty p word.
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