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  1. Bushy

    What is Raw honey in 2019

    This is as close to what I would call old fashioned raw honey, without the bee stings, so we'll done. Already have this size operation in my long term plan, but not quite yet.
  2. Bushy

    What is Raw honey in 2019

    Thanks for the replies. IMO anything below 48deg C is normal processing to get through gravity filter bags and at this temp, no damage is done to any honey weather creamed or liquid. I really don't want to add the word Raw to my labels, but under sales pressure in some markets from those who do have Raw on their labels. These other competitors are doing nothing wrong, but it is getting tiresome explaining to customers there is no difference, knowing they probably don't believe me. Not the biggest issue on the planet, just trying to decide what to do.
  3. I am curious to know what the current definition of RAW honey is. Traditionally raw honey was unfiltered and was defined by stuff (wax, bees bits etc) floating on top. Very simple. In 2019 a lot of jars have "Raw" added to labels and customers are saying they only want raw honey, not ours because, ours has been processed by machines in a factory. That comment could have been fine except I knew I had processed and packed the other persons honey. Both honeys were identical from start to finish, but the word "raw" made perception different with consumer. We do not heat treat any honey, and to be honest, very few Beekeepers/honey processors in NZ do these days, so is all honey raw. What is our definition.
  4. Unless constitutional law has suddenly changed, "newly elected board members" only become official seat holders at the end of an AGM, so any vote held at the AGM will be carried out under the watch of incumbent board members. Unless there is something I am really missing, it will be impossible for new captured levy payers to vote for 2019 board members, as they are not members until levy money is paid. Apinz rules state, levy increase can only happen at AGM by majority vote. If you are now stating today, Apinz have changed your written rule to now include a weighted proxy vote for that AGM, then great, but dont pretend it has existed prior to now. Hey I don't write your rules, I just read whats in front of us to try and make intelligent voting decisions.
  5. With all due respect you had better go and read your own rules. I did not say the board could increase the levy, I said a majority vote at the AGM is required. Your rules clearly state AGM and not postal vote or any other means, just vote at AGM. As has been stated by ApiNZ and from your rules, the first opportunity to have this vote will be the 2020 AGM. You can apologise any time you like
  6. Thanks @Ali. I didn't say I would stop reading the posts. If I see misleading BS or correct argument being dumped on, it will be impossible for me to stand by and do nothing, I promise. But I have voted and have some other jobs to do. Stick to your guns as 98.5% of your concerns and arguments are spot on.
  7. To the relief of many I am sure, I am making this my last posting on levy matters until after the vote is announced, as I do not think I have anything else to say. My views are now well known, and while I find the current situation very sad, I am actually very confident for the future, based on one simple fact. The NBA that formed in 1913 and lasted 100 years, was actually the third attempt from the industry of the time to build a primary administrative group. Practise can make perfect. My last two comments are. 1) Please everyone vote so we can get a clear manadate one way or the other. 2) The option in front of us is just one idea from a small group that has pushed hard. However, our industry is made up of some incredibly smart people, so if we feel we want something different, be confident in yourselves to know we can achieve anything, and any structure we are happy to pass onto the next generation. All the pieces exist, it is just a matter of putting transparency and integrity into the mix, and within two years we could have multifaceted industry representation that allows individual choice. Catch you all on the other side.
  8. Well im going to leave and watch a game of rugby. iMO the ApiNZ administrative structure is already in place and all employment and management contracts will be well and truly locked up before any new levy voted board members get anywhere near the board table in 2020. My favourite program a few years back was "Yes Minister". You can change the board (politicians) but you can't change the bureaucrats. I would like to change the structure before we give them $2 million dollars so my vote is still NO
  9. Well you had better be organising a posy for the 2020 ApiNZ AGM as I am sure you know from reading their rules that they only need a majority vote at that AGM to pass cost increase
  10. This is pointless in 2019 as only existing ApiNZ members can stand and vote. If levy is passed, it will take to mid year for legal framework to be in place and levy payers will only become official members when money is paid which has the first deadline of March 31st 2020. Newly elected board members under a new levy voter system will only become official after the 2020 AGM, which incidentally is about an hour after ApiNZ can officially take their first vote on increasing the levy from 10to 15 cents
  11. No the current "healthy debate" will have no effect on people standing or not. What is at stake is designing the structure that allows effective and inclusive participation right from local groups/branches/regions through to your board rep. Your Hub might work, but generally there is a complete disconnect from ApiNZ to most regions.
  12. Of all the things I am not happy about, board elections are not one of them. It will be the 2020 election before levy payers could put their name forward, but democratically everyone can throw their hat in the ring. That is healthy, but sad reality is getting people willing to put their hand up after initial hype wears off is very difficult. Eventually the balance often then swings to larger players who have extra staff or finances to cover time away at meetings.
  13. Been away two days and see you have racked up some serious colum inches on this topic. Got a serious question for you. You continually state you are not happy with ApiNZ but change will only happen from within on a yes vote. What are the issues or areas you are not happy about with ApiNZ and want changed. Not arguing wether your method is right or wrong, just wondering if we have the same issues.
  14. I will respectfully agree to disagree on your comment about NZ Beekeeping is not being a valid alternative, but to achieve what you propose requires an administrative structure and an inclusive mentality that does not exist within Apinz. Yes regardless of vote outcome, change will evolve, and only time will tell if this is positive or negative, but sometimes to stop bad behavior, you do need to raise your voice. We will work together on the otherside, and if we were joint Apinz CEO I am sure we would sort all this out in six/12 months, but we are being forced to have these discussions during a vote, and that is the problem.
  15. Ok what if your voice of reason (NZ Beekeeping etc) do not survive because people do not want to pay a levy and be a member of Apinz and then not afford/want to pay a levy to NZ Beekeeping etc. This is not a natural evolution, but a forced evolution, and that voice of reason is critical. Hey well done on your history.
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