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  1. On 23/01/2020 at 9:50 AM, Maurice Field said:

    Good morning,


    Is there anyone in Hawke's Bay that will extract honey for hobby beekeepers? I have 4 3/4 depth supers I would like help to extract?

    Hi there Maurice, Beekeepers Hawkes Bay have an extractor for use at a reasonable rate I would need to check but I think it may be $25, contact us on the club email at beekeepershbinc@gmail.com and we can see what we can arrange for you.  Membership is $25 per year and being affiliated with APINZ members are eligible for discounted lab tests including Tutin.  Sorry for the tardy reply but up to my armpits in alligators at the moment.

  2. 34 minutes ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

    Sorry, but no, I don't believe we have a crisis.

    Sure it would be nice if we cleaned up all the pollution in the world.  And that will happen.  But I don't believe that Global warming is a problem.  Getting cold will be a problem.

    The reason they changed the rhetoric from Global Warming to Climate Change was because the world is not getting warmer.

    The antarctic Ice cap has set records for growth in the last 5 years.


    emphasis on less bad 

  3. 2 hours ago, Philbee said:

    I edited that post once I realized your point.
    Production in the future may well be related to possibly Manuka and large scale pollination of both clover and fruit / vege produce, with other honeys being minor players.

    If this plays out then we may need lots of Hives again


    Certainly there are signs of major horticultural entities looking to partner with reliable beekeepers for the pollination of clover and other vegetables.  Discussions recently have suggested that farmers diversifying are more inclined to enter long term relationships to get their commodities pollinated and have evicted the short term Manuka chasers  who are never there when the pollination is required.

  4. 9 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

    How much rain you want ?

    you can have most of whats coming to us this week . LOL.


    Happy to take the lot but I might regret that when I visit Westport on Tuesday  that is if I dont get blown out of the sky with the expected winds

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  5. On 21/11/2019 at 3:35 PM, Alastair said:



    Other biggy is genetics. In the US, although most bee imports are banned now, for most of 400 years bees have been imported willy nilly, from every corner of the globe. The available genetic diversity is immense. It should not be a surprise that out of all that, after the initial varroa induced wipeout of feral hives, that there were a few feral hives somewhere, that had the inherant ability to find a way to survive. And once established, were not exposed to overwhelming numbers of other bees drones, to dilute the trait back out of them. Not so here, very limited genetics have been imported.

    The USA had great difficulties with genetic diversity in relative recent times, we were fortunate to have met Megan Taylor a PhD student who had participated in identifying the demise of genetic diversity in the Queen breeding population relatively recently.   The research looked at the comparison of USA genes compared to old world bees, the decline was massive and extremely serious leading to the import of germplasm from old world bees to inseminate local queens.  Her earlier studies concluded "Although we tried to sample as many queen producers as possible, we were limited to the major queen producers of the western United States.  Being able to sample other queen producers from around the country (the southeast in particular) would provide a more complete picture of the diversity.  Secondly, there are several countries that currently have honey bees to support their agricultural system, yet these honey bees were not native.  Assessing levels of genetic diversity of honey bees from other countries where honey bees are not native (Australia, Canada, Chile, Brazil, etc…) would provide additional knowledge of the genetic diversity of honey bees globally.  How would these countries compare to the diversity of honey bees in the United States?  Could the incorporation of Old World germplasm improve their stocks? There are many new questions left to be answered."   https://projects.sare.org/project-reports/gw14-011/

  6. 2 minutes ago, Stoney said:

    By damp I mean the brood box sides are wet to touch, usually forming thick “slime” on inside of the boxes, can be simply from the pallet not sitting on level ground with rainwater sitting in puddles in corners of the vented pallet floor. 

    These staples feel heavier and look different to dry hive staples.


    That's the difference I guess my staples didn't absorb moisture but I would have thought that would have reduced the efficacy of the OA.  I haven't been happy with the moisture in the hive but haven't noticed any detrimental effects

  7. 36 minutes ago, Stoney said:

    I agree regarding winter use.. damp is no good. 

    Also think small colonies under a box of bees are best treated once they have expanded or treated with synthetics as the small colonies can take a long time to hit that critical mass to just take off. 

    Interesting you say that, I have only one hive that has over wintered in the dampest conditions under the shadow of a very large poplar tree.  I lifted the hive mat and was concerned at the levels of condensation under the lid, this hive is a folly that we beginners sometimes make, a full depth box with a 3/4 depth of honey over winter.  So now it has two 3/4 depths and a full depth with an intention to transition to 3/4 depth to support the transition to old age.  The last couple of days I have been moving it meter by meter into the sun but I have to say it hasn't missed a beat with OA autumn and spring treatments but it is only one hive and cant form any conclusions.   There is not much around here over winter although the farmers around here are getting lazier and there is more growth of native trees that may support the bees earlier in the season.

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  8. On 23/10/2019 at 8:36 AM, ChrisM said:

    ok I can't find any prohibition or confidential nature to this, so below my rambling there is a portion of the latest newsletter to NZ Beekeeping members (a group that we might all consider joining to augment whatever forum/club/group/society you are already part of..) I think this project is actually very exciting, it may not come to fruition but I'm super pleased it is being attempted.. The actual content of Mark Goodwin's talk isn't here in detail, but if you look at pollens, then you can think about gorse. The bees collect gorse pollen, it ends up in the honey. However, there is no such thing as gorse honey (at least not in our current climate). So counting pollen isn't much use. Whatever honey you have collected you might hope that the most prevalent pollen reflects that kind of honey, but it is a hit and miss situation where you can't easily define proportions of gorse honey and so on from the percentages of the pollens in the samples. I hope I have explained that right, I don't think gorse was mentioned in the talk with any emphasis, but that is how I think of it. Below is from the newsletter.. 



    Dear Members,
    Following a presentation at our Hamilton Field day in August, your Executive have decided to partner with Dr Mark Goodwin to seek funding for a research project looking at the nectar in the bees crop and relating that to the honey produced.  A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) has been signed.
    The project will be over 3 years.
    The concept for this project is to be able to market all New Zealand honey based on the percent of nectar from each plant species that makes up the honey.  After this, a taste profile language could be developed like that used in describing wines and could also include the geographic characteristics of where the honey is produced.   Having a variety of plant species represented in honey, could then be a positive for honey rather than a negative as is the current situation.
    The project would be to find markers to identify the nectar from each major plant source of nectar as required along with an understanding of the relationship of the concentration of the markers in nectar and honey made from that nectar.  The approach would be to collect thousands of nectar samples from the main nectar producing plants. In the first year this is likely to be from our other Native monofloral varieties like Rewarewa, Kamahi etc. 

    The nectar will be collected and removed by catching the honeybees on the floral source crop of interest.  This approach works as honeybee foragers exhibit floral constancy.  In a paddock of clover and dandelion, a bee will only visit clover and another bee only dandelions.  Bees can be caught by placing a plastic bag over the flower with the foraging bee.  
    We are really excited about the potential of this project.  We will be seeking your help to collect samples from specific floral sources including the foraging bees - let's know if this interests you; info@nzbeekeeping.co.nz.
    Jane Lorimer

    The National Botanical Gardens of Wales has extensive DNA profiles of Honey and Pollen  https://botanicgarden.wales/science/saving-pollinators/honey-bee-foraging-2/

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  9. 2 hours ago, yesbut said:

    The paper refers to oxalic dribble which is a fundamentally different approach.

    Understand all that but included in their findings where the impacts of OA ingestion.     I thought it was food for thought and I have used the staples as recommended in 14 hives and they  are in great condition right now, 11 out of 14  hadn't chewed the staples.   

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  10. Perhaps the answer is in one of the research papers Alastair provided "OAD is one of the most important organic acids used for the control of V. destructor. It is
    indispensable but must be dosed precisely and applied as seldom as possible to prevent sublethal damages which eventually lead to the loss of bees. Long disposition in the bee hive can cause accumulation of the acid and therefore induce further damage."  Perhaps this is the reason there are some losses rather than the bees have an unhealthy disposition. 

  11. On 23/04/2019 at 4:14 PM, yesbut said:

    If there was a nasty found you would be told. I get these inspections every year.

    Zillions of I think  Harlequin Ladybirds descended upon the house this afternoon....hopefully that equals bad news for the Willow aphid !

    We have the same level of Harlequin ladybirds all looking for a place to stay

  12. 1 minute ago, tony said:

    I think I'll start a new topic a post my results so you guys can see them ill just talk with the program personal first to make sure I'm not crossing any lines

    Great idea Tony and appreciate your openness about where your hives are at.   My guess, and it is a guess, that there are many viruses lurking in our hives most of the time and it only becomes a problem when bee health is compromised, when does this happen, I have no idea other than the obvious signs.  Like the rest of the living world really.

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  13. Just now, Philbee said:

    The presentation I heard indicated that there was indeed some products that were able to safely control these pests but that isnt the end of it
    There is a big potentially a huge difference between controlling at an apiary level and halting the spread at a national level.

    I agree and it is a major concern of how rapidly they are spreading throughout the country, they are particularly aggressive and very resilient as I understand it.

  14. 3 hours ago, Philbee said:

    With mesh floors it should be fine.

    The issue arises when the hive has insufficient ventilation  and the weather is hot.

    There were some interesting issues raised at the SNI field Day yesterday

    One was about Argentine Ants and their spread in NZ

    Apparently they are spreading and the Scientific advice is to refrain from placing Hives in areas that are infested .

    On the face of it that is an alarming situation for an industry to be in. 


    Second point of interest was one that was put to me on the side from an educated overseas Varroa researcher.
    He was concerned that Glycerine was Toxic to Bees and instead advocated for use of OA/ Syrup Dribble.


    Either we are a long way ahead of him or he is ahead of us 


    I don't have any Argentine Ants in any of my apiaries but I am aware of them being in others and the beekeepers are managing them with ant poison in small containers under the hive lids, they report some success with this and no effect on the bees.

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  15. 2 hours ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

    Some people seem to be missing the point.

    Yes I understand that I (many of us do) made myself available for COI duties.  I happened to spend a bit of time talking to this lady and then happened to ask how she got my details.

    When I was told it was via DECA I admit I hit the panic/blame button.


    I now see it is nothing more than someone harvesting a file off the internet.  I am fine with that.


    I thank @AFB PMP Management Agency for there very quick response to my thread and their offer of assistance.


    I am sure there is almost no way that we can keep our information personal.


    @Mummzie yes I understand about the whitepages, but no one harvests that information as it does not contain very many cell phone numbers and who get snail mail nowadays.



    I think the worse thing Trevor is DeeGeeBee's reference to the scam operating detailed in the letter from the Dow Jones and the phone calls attempting to harvest financial information

  16. 16 hours ago, Philbee said:

    Precautionary Bulletin

    Experienced Beek, claims backed up by his offsider and I visited his site closest to mine and it was hell.
    There are a number of possible causes but the combination of zero flow, OA treatment and syrup on the same day is a definite  possibility and one that needs to be put out there.

    Ive set up a trial to try and replicate it so it will come out in the wash but the more feedback received and shared  the better.


    I finished putting my OA Staples in yesterday after taking off the remaining supers prompting a robbing frenzy.  I put it down to taking the supers off, what I did like was the ease of placing the staples in the hives.  I have the same problem as Dansar with the home bees spending a lot of time around the garage today.

  17. 9 hours ago, BRB said:

    How much to get it tested? And how much do you need to send in?


    Hills laboratories test for it and the cost is around the $80+ mark they supply the small pottles and courier bags

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  18. 16 hours ago, Dennis Crowley said:

    John, you would not like the radio interview then on last sat rural program about the trail block by the lake (forgotten the name)down your way. Great expectations of big things to come with honey growing to 20+, a boom for farmers and beekeepers to come.

    Lake Tutira about an hour north of Napier

  19. 2 hours ago, tudor said:

    All very well, but has this data been subjected to peer review and published ?

    If not, it's just another anecdote. 


    Too true but I heeded the warning, it was a shame that more wasn't said about it but the clinician concerned would often be subject to derogatory comments by some of his colleagues about just being a technician.  In any event I do my best to stay away from the stuff and anything else that kills cells, plants or otherwise.  Makes for tough gardening but.

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