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  1. Ok so the next logical question is can we combine cutting any costs in the businesses and any upside in the honey being from NZ to get to a price that works for volume? ie is there any additional value in bulk honey being from NZ? Can we get costs low enough to meet this price?
  2. I realise that there were others involved in addition to Apiculture NZ and yes, they deserve the credit too. So the general consensus is that this was a fluke, them all working together? Perhaps the levies are justified if/when they can all get together for the common beekeeping good. Or maybe this was only effective because covid-19 was such a big, global issue. Would they have any cut through if we had a pest incursion such as small hive beetle or would no one in government listen or care? I note that I haven't been a member of any beekeeping organisation for a number of years but have been to conference the last two.
  3. I am not a member currently ( although I have been in the past)...just wondering if the feeling was that Apiculture NZ was showing its/some worth in the covid-19 situation? Their lobbying had to be helpful in getting beekeepers essential business status and likely saved me a hell of a lot of hives. Not being able to fold down and feed mating units would mean a bloodbath for my bees. They will naturally be keen to talk up the part that they played but some credit might be due. Any thoughts?
  4. We used to open feed hives in Alberta, 2 or 3 44 gallon drums per yard, half full of hay half full of syrup. It was crazy!
  5. I would think it would be pretty problematic at this time of year with the flight restrictions around....poor ######s!
  6. My workers are off now so just me and one of my utes. Assuming that no one gets over officious and no beekeepers stuff it up for the rest of us I should be all good. Breeding season is pretty much over and most of the hives and nucs have plenty of food on so now just patching, wintering and feeding. That said I expect this to go on much longer than 4 weeks so will likely look to have everything closed off in the next 4 in case changes have to be made that might limit my work.
  7. In volume? Pretty low id imagine as there doesn't seem to be a recognised market for it other than lumped in as 'Bush honey'.
  8. I think the assumption is that you were the landlord 'setting' the gang members on to tenants. Not beekeepers unless you produce honey?...cough cough ( every queen breeder in the country)
  9. Airborne have always been at the lower/est end of pricing and therefore can probably sell super cheap in shops. Just look at the Apiarist Advocate a few months back to see their attitude towards beekeepers.
  10. And how many hives then? 350000? And how much honey per hive? And what was the price for manuka? And site rentals? And what has happened internationally? The point is that our industry has changed immensely over the years since then so straight comparisons are a bit flawed. In a mature settled industry maybe but not in ours. Anyway, as a beekeeper of 20 years I'm hoping the price comes up...we shall see I guess.
  11. So getting back to the original question. $6kg is minimum anyone will be looking for for volumes of pasture honey? Not liking my chances of stitching a deal together at that number....oh well better stick to the breeding then I have had queen clients ringing to discuss cell size and quality from another supplier. I was horrified by what theh were getting. Unfortunately the strait is a bit of a barrier to shipping cells at this stage.
  12. I believe that the queens I produce are of a consistently high quality. My clients agree, but this doesn't mean that I'm not having to drop my price to be in the same ball park as other beekeepers who are now magically breeders. I can stand by my product, service and cost and let the muppet 'breeders' win. Or I can get the word out and fight my corner, and adjust my price to give my clients some relief and keep myself in the game. The same applies to honey. Sure, try to find new markets, talk up the quality etc but pragmatism has its place too. We all want to be here next season and afterwards. Pride doesnt pay my bills or feed my family.
  13. Corporatisation is here to stay I'm afraid. Much like the honey prices we can complain about it being so or get on with finding a plan to keep things moving and business alive. Our honey might be the best in the world but if no one knows the story or wants to pay the premium then what is it worth? And maybe...just maybe we have all gotten a bit complacent with the boost that manuka brought us. It's easy to blame others, harder to look at ourselves and accept we played a part and our businesses were built on unsustainable foundations....or even lies. Maybe non manuka was only ever worth the global price and our break evens and costs are just to high.
  14. I am a pragmatic beekeeper myself. I try to get the most for what I sell but if I need to I sell for what the market dictates and adjust my business scope and scale accordingly. My queens are much better than those that are being offered a bargain basement prices but the price I ask will be coming back so I am in the same general area...I can complain about things and have no business or get on with figuring how to make things work. The same applies to my honey too. Everyone's equation is different and there business make up aswell.
  15. Given what is going on in the market I would think $8 is unlikely anytime soon...or maybe ever. $6 for smaller volumes perhaps but the demand is probably not there at that price for volume. Everyone is in a different situation in terms of their cashflow needs/costs and break evens but my gut feeling is if you can make money at $4.50 a kg then you might be ok so it is likely time to get costs under control. I dont have a number in my head and it may be that as an industry we have a heightened sense of our own value in terms of honey that can be produced elsewhere ie non native varieties. There will be a price point that I can likely make a deal happen, whether it works for the beekeeper remains to be seen. Clover/pasture hasn't been my deal for quite a while so the info is much appreciated.
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