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Everything posted by flash4cash

  1. South island beekeeping seems to be alot cheaper than north island where feeding is nornal practise.
  2. Greed is a human condition...not just in bees.
  3. What about the term fake ####?
  4. Adam bosses are going to want to keep the profits...That why they employ him. If the beekeeper wants to keep the profits they will have to hire Adam themselves...or someone equally good-looking.
  5. I gave a few frames of honey away and they kindly returned me a honey and ginger drink. It was delicious. It would work as a product as it has very little honey in it and lots of water. Remember we have world class water here. Also saw a post with honey and turmeric mixed together as a super antioxidant toxic. Whack them togther (maybe other things) amd sell them in a capsule for daily consumption.
  6. @jamesc what do you mean? You have seen the light and now a proud brand owner. Honey Hunters is an awesome name now you just need a clever marketing campaign to create an emotional connection (i would suggest funny) and you will have a brand.
  7. Never happen there will always be friction unless the supply chain is owned by one party. Beekeepers were winning the game now they are losing the game. On balance who has the upper hand over time....according to Warren Buffett the owners of the brands. Which is why he only invests in brands like Coca-Cola and not in a sugar farm..and why he is the 3rd richest person on the planet.
  8. This dude is off the mark. It would take alot of real manuka to make up to the volume sold of fake manuka. All that showed that the demand was there. They will be pain. Just in non manuka honeys
  9. @Trevor Gillbanks request: can we please have longer to edit posts? Say 15 min instead of 5? Plus I thought the mods proof read the posts for thouse of us that can not spell ?
  10. Dear Sanata Can i please have sunshine and 30°C for the the month of January? I know i have not been as good as i could be... but I was better than last yeat so that has got to count for something. Your Favorite Fan Flash
  11. It being caused by Trump and his ability to piss off every world leader, both friend or foe. He had mistaken American first for America only. The combined force of the world is more powerful than America by itself. You and I could debate this forever ?? i am enjoying it..not sure about everyone else ?? You may be right..however i have history on my side. The nineteenth century saw a range if life changing events and problem yet look how the world prospered. There will be bumps but overall the world will keep truckin along.
  12. It great you are thinking about it. It is what happens to the honey once it in the drum that will make the real difference to the return received. One of the keys to making high valued added returns is to have your base product to be very little of the final product. As James say most beekeepers are individuals and do not want to cooperate so a co op is pretty much a dead duck. I predict a few large corporates will take over most of the game and the smaller players will be forced out. They will be able to offer more for manuka sites as it is more valuable to them as they derive an income for more parts of the food chain.
  13. Great stuff @frazzledfozzle . It is interesting that they are now collecting export data on which honey type since june 2018. The other interesting thing is USA is a far bigger buyer than China
  14. A trade war is always a threat. I see the opposite as USA retreats from the world. China is smart enough to engage it. Look at the silk road intivite. This is China moment to shine.
  15. Should have got a video of the action
  16. Probably got a pole dancer as the main eye catcher pic. Fits in well with the honey hunter bramd name theme.
  17. It should be apparent now to the industry that power of being a brand owner that is has pricing power vs being a commodity producer of honey. Even Manuka is a commodity, well paid at the moment. However think about, how much money produces are leaving the table.
  18. @Adam Boot mentioned that there are around 200 different manuka brands in the market...that alot probably to many. There will be alot of market development and marketing money going into it. Not very efficient way to spend the money. It would be alot better if they was one strong brand.
  19. Interest take on things. Most people do not want to invest in rebuilding comb..lost honey. Site extraction may no make the cut for export requirements
  20. They are out there though a few of my customers have mentioned they belong to them. Unfortunately i did not enquire more at the time. Are they mostly conected to Maori trusts?
  21. So philbee mentioned honey Co-ops. Who are they, what are they about and can people join them? Any info?
  22. You should not underestimated the importance of distribution. Getting supermarket retail space is a slow go. There are lots of new products wanting to make the shelves only so many can go on in any give week, there is a waiting list. Some times of the year like now they simply will not launch a new product. It could easily take a year from start to first sale. Then they will want to trail it in a few stores 1st to make sure people buy it before role out. Even then most supermarkets make their own decion on what to stock so you will have to deal with them all individually. The logistics involved are also challenging when you want to move the volume you have got.
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