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  1. Please bear in mind that Britain has had varroa much longer than we have in NZ, so has had many more generations to evolve VSH characteristics. Our bees will get there, just not anytime soon, without a lot of human intervention, which, if not properly managed will narrow the range of the gene pool, which right now we have a huge advantage over most countries.
  2. Randy Oliver spoke about treatment free beekeeping while out here in 2011 for the NBA Conference, we realised that at that time, Randy was in the business of producing nucs for which he was able to charge a premium, so was able to cost in brood breaks, so this would not really translate to viable beekeeping for those who are reliant on pollination and a honey crop.
  3. They tried the 'no treatment' approach in Russia when varroa first appeared, and when over 95% of the total number of colonies were dead, and the whole food chain was collapsing, the illustrious rulers decided that maybe that wasn't the way to go.
  4. Revolutionary have what I have been told a really tight patent which they guard very carefully, so would need a real point of difference to negate the need to spend time and money arguing.
  5. Originally for the first year, you could buy the revolutionary unit, but then you could only lease, and a condition was that the owners extraction plant had to be used for the further processing, so that meant that most were faced with a considerable distance to cart the pails anyway, and I heard a take it or leave it price paid for the honey. About then the company seemed to become more difficult to contact as few found that suitable.
  6. There have historically been pockets of AFB in the Waitaks, so I would be thinking more about that risk, rather than the mythical colony which is totally varroa resistant. To me, not worth the risk or time.
  7. I know an excellent long-term beekeeper who was an early adopter, and bought one of the revolutionary gizmos, and loves it, but this only removes the comb and wax off the frames into bucket which then need to go to an extraction plant to process. as I see it, one of the main advantages of the system is that of disease control - the beekeepers boxes and frames stay on the correct hive, and as there is going to be an increasing risk in bigger plants with different beekeepers supers sitting in hot rooms, and post extraction in storage until picked up, and possibly exchanging all sorts of greebies especially in the changed estate of the industry. The downside if one could call it that is that bees have to draw out new foundation every time a frame is extracted, so not same economy of energy. Right now when wax is fetching a high price there must be added value in the increased wax produced - perhaps balancing out the lower honey production.
  8. The development of queens producing stock with higher VSH characteristics is still a work in progress, mainly based Otago University, but will only improve with time as the longer it is since varroa arrived, the further the VSH characterisics have developed. The trick is to not narrow the gene pool too much in the process. In Europe, some are mating a queen artificially with one drone only to get a 90%+ VSH rating, which I think is plain stupidity because only breeding for one thing means a whole lot of other positive things are lost, and very quickly.
  9. I don't know the details of the RMP setups, but I think an NP1 would be hard to formulate without the use of some final hot water washdown. The stationary ones I have seen have used gas to reduce the electrical draw down, and there are vagaries in moving gas around the country in large cylinders.
  10. If wekas dump on carpet while on a diet of ripe puriri berries there is no getting the stain out - cheaper to cut out and repair the section of carpet.
  11. Would also need a massive mobile generator as most of the machinery in a commercial size plant is 3 phase, and really sucks the juice through, even using gas to heat the wash down water.
  12. So, thinking this is your kitchen, you are on ' short rations'?
  13. Much of the cost of new housing is the change in expectations in size, and facilities - imagine a new house with only one bathroom? We are demanding huge homes with all the best of bells and whistles when most families have never spent so little time as a family as they do now.
  14. The problem is that unlike any other time in our history, we now have true 'city children' being raised in inner-city apartments, who are ill-fitted to live rurally, and have been educated to believe that BA or B Com degrees will provide them with all they need to earn big dollars. By the time they hit the labour market in early twenties, they have a huge student debt, and absolutely no work experience, with huge expectations as starting work as a CEO.
  15. Not promoted on this thread, but over several others. As far as Philbee question, he was a new hobbyist as I remember it when he joined back in 2014, and while he has really concentrated on beekeeping, would surely agree that it's not quite the same as some who have several decades of experience to draw on.
  16. Easy, follow the posts, those with real time in the industry have already considered most ways to solve the overcrowding and other problems several times over the decades, and have worked out the downfalls to it, and it shows in their posts.
  17. Pre manuka, there was an unwritten code of practice, and it has only been since manuka madness that things have gotten out of hand. In earlier times it would have been recognised as laughable for someone to decide, without any or very little experience in beekeeping to set up a beekeeping business by just throwing a heap of money at the idea. Much like any other profession or trade, you 'served your time' with someone whose skills you respected and tried to emulate, often initially for very little pay, much like an apprenticeship. Truth is, that those old hands who lived that process will mostly do well or at least live well on savings even under the current circumstances until the market/stocking levels sort out. They have little to gain from a quota system the new entrants would like to foist on the industry.
  18. If the industry has to introduce a quota system, preference would need to be given to those with family managed, long term businesses who over time have already proven that that they are good beekeepers who toe the line - ie AFB dealt with properly and all hives and apiaries registered, as well as advising any colonies sold, with new owners details. In most areas, would not be much debate - the locals usually know who are the cowboys. What would be the sense in diluting their rights to pander to the new, too big, too fasts, most of whom are not really interested in anything other than a quick buck.
  19. The difference between fishing and beekeeping is that if someone does not go out fishing, that only improves the possibilities for those that do, but with hives, if the numbers are not reduced ethically, all other hives in the area could be impacted by varroa bombs, AFB and other greebies.
  20. Totally agree with @frazzledfozzle, the old timers are the ones with the wisdom to understand the need to mentor the new comers towards sensible, considered beekeeping management with builtin safeguards like sensible spacing of apiaries, and conservative spending in the good years. Around Auck we have a plethora of new beekeepers who at best 'done a course' all theory, no practical, or worse, had a search online under 'how to keep bees'. Not one or two, hundreds of people, and many have gone from new beekeeper to commercial in one huge nuc purchase, and the thought that they should downsize or manage their exit from the industry now because of lack of funds/interest/skills in an ethical way will not occur to many of them. All of us in the area will be impacted, just as we have been during the gold rush. Those who have made a killing out of supplying the nucs will be the first affected in spring as I think the prices will, from a hobbyists point of view be more reasonable, as in reality, nucs are a natural byproduct of swarm control rather than split/split/split beekeeping that we have had in recent years, and were given or sold cheap to sensible new comers. Hopefully it will be a time now when people take the time to learn real beekeeping - how to put boxes and frames together properly, share skills like how to raise decent queens, all the finer details that many have not 'bothered with' in the headlong rush to make money.
  21. Thank you Chrisdub, pleased to read that somehow buying this would please the bees, but the highlight was the link at the bottom of the page about vegan condoms - relieved that manufacturers are doing their best to restrict the growth in numbers of vegans.
  22. Exactly, but the Johnny come latelys were at best bee-havers, with little to no interest in the welfare of the bees or the hives. I believe that the corporate led move to routinely feed sugar to stimulate brood early has delayed all and sundry from realising hive numbers had got beyond that which the vegetation could provide for. Even as a hobbyist, I didn't feed sugar until three years ago, and at that point the impact of the local dump sites of those migrating north/south meant feed or lose sometimes.
  23. I would be thinking that that is fortunate rather than unfortunate, bit like AFB test kit you've not needed to use.
  24. Hi @olbe , to report a Trademe advert, scroll down to bottom of page, and 'report listing' is button to left of 'page views'. I cannot find the one you are referring to, but if it is the one that has been posted several times, has no bees, just totally wrong dimensions and design, so hopefully will not ever sell as someone looking to breed queens should have enough knowledge to know it isn't fit for purpose. The most important ones to report are those with bees for sale without a Beekeeper registration included, as this increases those flying under the radar and potentially spreading AFB, or selling appalling nucs to the inexperienced.
  25. @Goran - in New Zealand about 90% of us live within 50 kms of the ocean, so we are very much a coastal people - hence so many sailors - there are Kiwis on pretty much every yacht anywhere in the world.
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