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  1. 1 hour ago, Philbee said:



    With regard Buy downs
    These sort of deals would have conditions and would ideally be tied into Hive caps and Quotas
    Not popular subjects I know.





     Your isolation gives a limited view unfortunately - up here, there was an utter scoundrel who spread AFB incredibly widely badly with managed rentals on ones and twos and numbering well in the hundreds, who refused to believe that just removing the frame with visual AFB. They spend years trying to eliminate that fellow, and the infected gear kept on turning up and being sold under a range of aliases. If there was a buy back, I think the same thing would happen - beek would be paid out, but would not burn all the gear. Think about the gear suppliers - they would suddenly have little or no market, as there would be used gear free for the taking, or else, someone would have to go out and euthanise thousands of hives, and burn the lot - I wouldn't want to do that, and I think it would cause an uproar in the media.

  2. 1 hour ago, Alastair said:

    Weighing would only be useful if first drying off absorbed water. Which in some of my staples has been more than just a few grams.


    Glycerol is hydroscopic, so I would think that in making them at this time of the year - particularly where there is high humidity, they could indeed absorb more water.

  3. 31 minutes ago, tommy dave said:

    which allows animals originating from a farm to be traced and found, and problems isolated. But many people weren't using it as legally required...


    Exactly - the orginators of the infection used the slack monitoring to spend 2 years intentionally spreading it to avoid detection - many in the industry know exactly where it all started - an extremely huge rich, powerful dairying family which had a head start and was extremely politically powerful - much like the timber treatment farce.

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  4. 8 minutes ago, yesbut said:

    People are inclined to make too much of a "tax write off ". The darn money still has to be earned before you can spend it....

    Yes, and if Comvita doesn't make more sales to cover gift, impact on bottom line and will affect profit - and any possible payout to shareholders - although that looks like it won't be anytime soon.

    Personally, would have preferred that they had dropped the cost of the same dressings in NZ to something that made them affordable - last time I inquired for a friend, pharmacy's have to order them in when a customer orders them, as too expensive for most at $25 each, so too slow moving to be worth carrying stock.

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  5. 4 hours ago, Alastair said:

    By up here, do you mean north of the harbour bridge Sailabee?

    Heard a speaker who is one of the local stock carriers in Kumeu etc - know he goes as far as Kaukapakapa, so speaking for a fairly large circle - there are now no dairying farms really near me - Len Brown - lecherous Len managed to get one of the surviving dairy farms at Waitoki's rates for 360 acres up to over $100,000 - literally rated out of the business to beef/lamb - rural Rodney etc hugely subsidises urban cultural events and lifestyle.

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  6. 5 minutes ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

    Sorry to hear Keith.  Blasted scum.

    Entitled scum - out at Karekare Beach a month or so ago, after ransacking and stealing from lady in late eighties, they moved down two houses, and took a brand new large Surf Life Saving vehicle, and off they went - police smartly put photo and details online, so caught - already painted another colour within a couple of days - words fail me at what these druggies  (and they are inevitably destroying peoples assets and lives for them) are prepared to do because that takes precedent.  Heard a senior police officer address a group last winter, and they literally  never arrest a burglar/car converter whose car and place of residence isn't strewn with empty little zip lock bags. 

  7. That is the difference between climate and weather - climate is the long game, weather is the short one, and because we are a small dot of land all by ourselves in the middle of a lot of water, NZ is one of the harder countries in the world to forecast the weather for.

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  8. 13 hours ago, Alastair said:

    So by that Sailabee you mean there could be a risk to contaminate the next honey crop?


    Exactly, Alastair, if it is toxic to humans when applied, it will continue to pose the same threat in the honey if it has the prerequisite conditions for the bacillus to grow - that's as I remember the micro-biology.

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  9. Just now, Ruche said:

    Fortunately I don't have any books in my beekeeping vehicle to give the game away 😂

    If wonder if he ever met any who fell into both categories 😆


    Historically those two predilections were very closely aligned - even illegally so.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

    This is the perfect thread.  You can talk about anything you want here.

    So, anything that you talk about in the apiary is fine here.


    But I thought what happened in the apiary, stayed in the apiary.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Alastair said:

    Martin the thread is not about killing wax moths, the purpose was to discuss using it to kill varroa, and as such would have to be applied to a living hive.


    Not only that, but bacillus go into a period of encystment and form spores when there is not enough nutrients or other limiting factor to reproduction, and those spores remain dormant but viable for long periods of time eg AFB spores, so Bt of any sort does not simply get used up, so if it is toxic, it will revive and rapidly reproduce when the next food supply etc arrives.

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  12. Reality is that our bees have been modifying to varroa for 20 odd year less than European, and that is along time in evolution genetically with such a short life-cycle and also we learnt from overseas experience, and all rotated our treatments way earlier to avoid development of resistance. 

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  13. 11 hours ago, Katrin Berkenbusch said:

    Can I put some of the honey frames back on the hive once it is set up to provide extra food? 


    If the honey is 90% capped, yes, but if it is predominantly uncapped, no, as it will ferment while off the hive. Most would put in Bayvarrol which does not leave a toxic residue in the honey. How many weeks did you leave the spring Apivar treatment in the hive? 

    Mainly, we use Apivar in autumn, and Bayvarrol treatment in spring.

  14. Has been tried over several years, but the NZ commercially available one had a with-holding period where it comes in contact with food - particularly vegetables growing in garden which was it's original use, and I am pretty sure that that would mean that all traces of it would need to be removed from the frames if used, before frames could go back on a hive, although product label may have changed, have not checked recently.

  15. On a Canadian site, a German woman posted that it is now illegal to use either Oxalic or Formic acids with supers on a hive, not surprising as Oxalic in ones diet can munt kidneys, not sure of the reason for the formic ban. Aluminium will dissolve in acid over time - ask anyone who used Emergel on a yacht mast back in the day - it has a high level of phosphoric acid in it.

  16. One of the parellel's to beekeeping was that when the original outbreak was confirmed, suddenly MPI  did a grand spring off ring to find that the much vaunted NAIT tagging program was simply being ignored by many farmers, and there was little doubt that while they knew who had bought it in, the originators had covered up for two years, so it had spread far and wide by their actions shifting and selling infected stock, no charges were able to be laid. Much like many are bleating about the new brooms at AFBPMP have started to seriously deal to those with unregistered hives. 

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