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  1. Quick Update: All the colours are in on all 4 quadrants...finding enough Winter and Autumn pollens slowed things down. The Paper trail is a doorstop now. So its become obvious i need to put it all into a database. This first chart is a draft its a funny mix of whatever i could find world wide, so its NZ, AU, EU, dominated in plant origins. So I’m collating at least 1500 plant pollen types and colours, with whatever quality and quantity information I have found. Now that is something that will be a bit easier to share with you. Some information is unverified and the authorship is not declared, and some is peer reviewed and has been collated using standard scientific method, there will be a bibliography with the database. Hopefully people here can then use that original to improve and customise for localities. The chart image will be available for enjoyment. I think the next iteration may have to be a series of 12 separate large charts. What a strange way to have fun. But it’s fun.
  2. Nope, none of those heal cuttings taken on May 30 put out roots. I’ll try again now the Luculia as stopped flowering. The owner of the tree was fine about me doing it, if not I’m off to Palmers GC.
  3. Eucalyptus saligna, Sydney Blue Gum, white flowers any idea what colour the pollen is in the bees pollen baskets? ( the pollen on the anther in the flower is not the same hue as the load the forager carries). Flowers well in BoP.
  4. It smells heavenly! Sounds like I can take them now in this coastal situation. Apparently they grow from seed too...I’d try now. I myself will hopefully try to rip from a branch so I get a heel, or strip off some leaves near to the cut end so this area also gets rooting hormone on it, and I might try to clip a T shape at the soil end, Ill stuff those in a pot with soil stick that in a large zip lock bag and put it on a sunny window ledge. If they don’t strike I will try in spring again and again in autumn. I have cobbled together a portable greenhouse in a clear storage box which moves around the front yard snatching sunlight. Ever optimistic, winter propagation thats asking for a lot of luck 😉 @kaihoka If i get some to strike I’ll send you a seedling/s via messaging and NZpost in spring. 👍
  5. It’s good to have little corner of joy and calm happening in this topic... The blossoms and pollen loads and nectar gathering strategies of the foragers are endlessly creative. Trevor thank you for looking out for us all, a tough job at times for moderators ...and it is appreciated. Just saying.
  6. Work in Progress detail

    © J. Child

  7. JUst tried it...My girls on a beautiful small tree up the road, same morning walk yesterday, heavenly scent...Luculia gratissima . Can be grown from a tip cutting or seed...Looks like an early winter N and P source. Not sure of the protein profile but forage at this time is better than no forage.
  8. Great tip thank you Trevor, Ill down load the app.
  9. Here’s my girls up the road foraging on what looks like an AU or SA or Mediterranean plant. Any ID?
  10. Yes I agree @Maggie James. Thank you! I have both Kirk publications but Dave Black wisely pointed out these are perhaps more accurate sources than Hodges. The IBRA publications have each hue standardised against the same background white.It would indeed make a cloth print if the original weren’t large and detailed. 😁I’m mulling on the worth of reproducing it or one of its successors as a set full size charts. Not cheap. It never is. It’s usefulness relies on its scale and detail. Making art is compelling, soothing and uplifting. The industry built around that joy is another beast altogether. Artists have similar operational concerns to beekeepers, being self employed. They carry all the cost and risk involved in production, pay all exhibition costs and then if a work sells pay 60 per cent to the gallery owner on any sales. Profit is not made by the artist and they must have an academic or day job to support themselves in order to pay for the exhibition cycle. This system is not stacked in the artists favour, there’s also a whole circus built around discussing art, turning it into a commodity and selling it as a commodity. You can feel a right mug if you are the person making the work. Sometimes it’s wise to withdraw from this system and just do the work as if no one will ever see it, or care. It’s a familiar story no doubt. When the chart is complete, a solution may be to make digital images available to Forum colleagues for their own enjoyment. I have had a great deal of help from people here about the topic. People driving many miles to deliver very precious books and sending pristine rare books in the mail at their own expense, the SCION librarian printing out pivotal papers related to the topic. Incredible kindness. Right better get back to it. I hope your pear tree is now a pleasing shape, I’ve just given our own tree crops new haircuts too😊
  11. That’s good news about T4B site being updated and expanded soon. Yes Google scholar is helpful. I was working from this 2014 document sent through by Linda to you for me. The Skinny bees document will be useful. I have included Australian, NZ and UK plant pollen colours in the chart, information available online and in publications is thin. The scope will be reduced in any done in the future SCION have been very helpful, generously sharing what they have in relation to the topic and allowing me to read in their library. This first iteration will be a draft, further versions may come about. There will invariably be limitations to it. I’m interested in hue accuracy, I’m doing my best. There’s huge scope and limited information. It is information art but primarily its an artwork and the aesthetics of the finished piece must also function for viewers. The colours I have depicted are the nearest approximation to those seen in photos, seen through my own eyes, described in words or printed colours. The word ‘Brown’ can refer to many different tones and tints of the hue. Corbicula pollen colours are subject to interpretation, oxidation, and variation created by the age of the pollen load, water content of the pollen at the moment it was collected, the bees technique when it mixes it with honey and puts it into its corbicula. Some pollens must be harder to wrangle into the basket than others. Often pollen loads looks duller and darker than the pollen observed on the anther. I found a paper devoted to the subject in the Ohio State University Knowledge Bank, kb.osu.edu Reiter, R, ’The Coloration of Anther and Corbicula Pollen’ The Ohio Journal of Science. V47 n4 (July,1947), 137-152 I will be watching the plants and blossoms thread keenly throughout winter hoping to see photos of bees with pollen loaded in their corbiculae gathering from flowers. There’s another topic in Plants and Blossoms called Pollen Colour Chart related to this artwork. Right back to mixing watercolours 😉
  12. Wow. I really appreciate your effort on my behalf @Maggie James. This will make the chart more useful. I’ll keep you posted here once it’s finished.
  13. Great. Good to know I’m not off track.
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