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  1. The folks at SumOfUs are starting a campaign to prevent a pesticide company from raising the legal limit of their pesticide in the U.S. I still think we should write an appeal to NZ Garden Store chains and other vendors of neonicotinoid insecticides asking them to withdraw these products from their shelves, but as I can't seem to raise much support for the idea and I can't do it alone, the best I can do is pass along news of what others are doing in this area. Disclosure: I hold no shares in any company that is involved with pesticides and I do not financially profit in any way from the manufacture or sale of pesticide products. Summary: A giant pesticide company just asking the U.S. government to increase the legal limit on bee-killing pesticides by a stunning 4000%. Donation Link: Stop the onslaught of bee-killing pesticides | SumOfUs Letter to me: Dear Deck, Breaking news: A massive pesticide company has just asked the U.S. government to increase the legal limit for its bee-killing pesticides by 4000%. That’s right. Four. Thousand. Percent. Bees are already facing a massive global die-off. This could be a death sentence for millions more bees. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is accepting public input on the decision for the next 27 days. So we're urgently working to organize beekeepers and the public to speak out against this devastating bee-killing proposal -- and we need your help. Can you chip in $10 to help get us started and fight for the bees? Click here to chip in $10 to launch an emergency campaign to stop this urgent threat to the bees. Bees fill a crucial ecological role as pollinators and are essential for agriculture, and are responsible for every third bite of food we eat. In other words: No bees, no farms. No farms, no food. These pesticides are already banned in Europe. But rather than phase them out for the sake of our bees, pesticide companies are suing the European Union to overturn the ban. Now, they're petition the US government to massively increase the limits of pesticide residues -- residues that are actively harmful to bees, and can stay in the soil for up to a year. Pesticide companies are already spending millions to get their way -- to beat them, we need to show the depth of public opposition to this move. So here’s the plan: First, we’ll use social media, our five million member email list, and online ads to alert the public about this dangerous new threat. Then, we’ll organize beekeepers to speak out in the media to put pressure on the EPA to reject the proposal. But with less than a month to save the bees, we have to act fast. And since we don’t get a dime from corporations, we count on you -- our members -- to provide the funding we need to win. Can you chip in $10 to stop this urgent threat to bees? Yes, I’ll chip in $10 to help save the bees. We know we can win this. A massive public campaign helped get these bee-killing pesticides temporarily banned in the EU, and SumOfUs members are crowd-funding a legal intervention to protect the ban, too. This is just one battle in a larger fight -- but we have to win in the US, now, if we're going to win for the bees all around the world. Thanks for all that you do, Jon, Paul and the rest of the team at SumOfUs.org ****** More information: Syngenta asks EPA to raise tolerance level for 'bee-killing' chemical, E&E Greenwire, September 5, 2014 SumOfUs is a worldwide movement of people like you, working together to hold corporations accountable for their actions and forge a new, sustainable path for our global economy.
  2. Thanks for the update Tom - as an ex-American I'm not in a position to criticise any nationality. I think that the criminal Germans of the past will come to be seen as amateurs when the extent of the criminal Americans crimes against humanity is revealed. But I digress - as to the mater of an approach to local retailers regarding bee-harming products I must apologize for suggesting it. It was the kind of mistake a Larva would make and I'll try not to make any more at least until I mature to the next level of development. I'll continue to look for related articles to put up in the resource section as we may wish to revisit this issue at some point down the road.
  3. The straw man ploy. I was thinking about asking some impertinent questions like where people are employed, whether or not they hold shares in related companies, if they have relatives that work in the industry - stuff like that - but I'm just a Larva. In any event I don't think we could launch an effective campaign unless we could muster more unity, I guess we have to score this one for the Nics and find some other way to help our bee buddies.
  4. Hi John, Sorry to hear you got sick - I guess Roundup just isn't for everybody. As to the report - what do you think is the cause of the increase in colony losses?
  5. Hi Gary, Great finds! I probably should have asked first, but I threw the Harvard study up on the site in the Resource tab, the "Disease and Pests" section - hope you don't mind - and I'd like to throw more of the stuff you find up there as well. If we get into this thing they will be essential resources. Hi Tom, Can we take it from your comments that you speak (and read) German? If so, I for one would like to learn more about the history of bee protection in Germany - it could inform any efforts we might take over here - following on from Toms take on the ban, was there a mass movement for the ban? Are there groups still active around this issue? Do we have any reports on Bayer's response to opposition elsewhere? It would be handy to know what we might be up against. I haven't heard back from the "Sum Of Us" folks so we may be on our own if we choose to do anything. What do people think? Should we do more research to identify the products and players? Do we have enough information to write a letter to retailers? Should we try to draw in more bee keepers?
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    tends to support the claim of harm
  7. Deck Hazen submitted a new resource: [plain]Neonicotinoids study[/plain] - [plain]tends to support the claim of harm[/plain] Read more about this resource...
  8. Upon closer inspection it appears that the "Sum of Us" campaign is a fund-raiser to 'to fund activist beekeepers who've been watching their bees die for years to take their message directly to the shareholders' at shareholder meetings. The same is true for avaaz which wants "to raise enough to fund the world’s first large scale, grass-roots supported, totally independent study of what's killing our bees" Given that the science isn't there yet it would be hard to launch a signature campaign against a retail chain asking them to pull a profitable product off the shelves based only on our suspicion that the product is killing our bees. I'll give some money to the campaign and I hope that others do also, but I think we will have to wait for confirmation on the product(s) before start a campaign.
  9. Thanks Dave, I've posted a follow-up message in the "members" area. Admin: see here Update to Save the Bees (Sum of Us campaign is a fundraiser) Apparently the jury is still out on the cause of bee deaths and going up against Bayer we'd have to make sure our ducks are properly aligned. My use of language is deliberate and I try not to mince my words unless it's necessary. I view most corporations as evil entities - typically the larger they are the more destructive. But my prejudice doesn't doesn't prevent me from changing my position in the face of new evidence. I tend to think that corporate pesticides are responsible for the decline in Bee numbers, and I also think that the Bush administration was responsible for the attacks of September 11, 2001 - but I can't prove either so, sadly, I just have to wait for the proof and work on the stuff I can prove. I skimmed portions of the paper you sent, most of it was over my head, but the tone seemed very "Neonicotinoid-denier"-ish and I saw why on page 730: "Funding for the development of this manuscript was provided by Bayer CropScience Ag Research Division." As with the papers on global warming and the reports regarding 9-11 from Underwriters Laboratory and NIST there is a pretty direct coloration between the source of funding and the conclusion. Sadly I think we are seeing the death of truth itself - my faith and trust in science has all but evaporated and the past few years have shown me that only a few dedicated researchers (like Guy McPherson, Steve Jones, and Kevin Ryan to name a few) will honour the truth over money. But enough ranting ... Thanks again.
  10. Deck Hazen submitted a new resource: [plain]Links to On-line signature campaigns[/plain] - [plain]We could start our own campaign[/plain] Read more about this resource...
  11. Thanks Dave, No guarantees of course, I've been an organizer for a few years at some point, with some issues, you just have to concede that people aren't interested, but considering the import of this issue and the fact that we have a clearly defined and readily available community should give us a fighting chance. If you have any particular resources that you would care to highlight, I'd be grateful for the leg-up. - Deck
  12. Hi Gary, Sure - happy to be involved. The first thing I would like to do is get up to speed on the problem (which products, which stores, have we got rock-solid confirmation that the products are responsible, and can we document the decline in bee populations and link the product(s) to that decline. In short, have we got an air-tight case? It would also be nice to have an alternative product that does the same job without killing bees. If we are sure of our case then I guess a letter to the retailers or retail chain (whoever makes the buying decision) to see if they are aware of the problem and would be willing to voluntarily withdraw the product(s) from the market (no point in starting a fight if we don't have to. If that fails then perhaps an approach to both the public via a petition, and the authorities via letters asking them to get involved would convince the retailers to drop the product(s). Doing something like this can become a lot of work, so before we get started perhaps we should check with the rest of the forum to see if folks support the idea, and find out if people are willing to help. We might consider an outreach to other bee boards as well. What do you think? It's possible that the Americans have already done a bit of the basic research for us. -- Deck
  13. Hi Gary and Margaret, I think signing the petition will help, especially if it successful in convincing the 3 U.S.-based chains to pull the product off their shelves as that would high-light the problem to Mitre-10. In addition, we could use the U.S. based petition as a model to create our own NZ-based petition to Mitre-10 and any other retailer selling or considering the product for sale. The decimation of bee populations is a global problem (as I understand it) and affects all of us, the only power we have to confront the destructive actions of multi-national corporations is our numbers and our unity. We support the Americans on this one, and they support us on the next one. And it's a pretty simple matter to show your support. Just google "sumofus bees" and you will get links to several petitions related to the Bayer product. Or follow this link Sign our petition to Bayer | SumOfUs Thanks, - Deck
  14. There is an on-line petition to urge retailers to stop selling pesticides that kill bees. ADMIN: link removed as it submitted something unknown on click. Sounds like a good idea to me.
  15. Or possibly an OK guy in a scary bee suit?
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