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  1. 7 points
    But in fairness, they introduced their pollen count method before manuka was a thing. They were groundbreaking at the time, introducing a standardised method to correctly identify honey types by the pollen. This was for all honeys, not just manuka. . I suspect that was a resaon they have always been so strident in rejecting the other methods of defining manuka, they felt they already had the ultimate method. And indeed, the passage of time has shown some of the other methods to be wide open to abuse.
  2. 5 points
    If people want to live in the country they should accept that livestock and the noises and messes they make are part of the deal. They should go back to town.
  3. 5 points
    manuka, white manuka, kanuka ,kahikatoa, Red tea tree were all names used for both manuka and kanuka. They are closely related and have been known to naturally hybridise. The two honeys are very similar and certainly in this area almost always come in at the same time or at least overlap. They were always sold together as manuka and this was not to try and rip people off, it was just the way it was. There is more difference between Hawke's Bay and Northland manuka as far as taste goes than there is between Hawke's Bay manuka and kanuka. I have never had a problem with the two being mixed together and up until recently was impossible to tell them apart anyway. It's ridiculous that good manuka honey with a high UMF and a little bit of kanuka doesn't even make manuka multi floral and yet if you mix enough clover with it becomes manuka multi floral. The current standards are plain wrong and I believe should be challenged. The problem with adulterated manuka did not come from beekeepers who have always packed manuka\kanuka together. The problem came with people who mixed everything else in with their manuka\kanuka honey. If you want a high UMF honey then you're going to need some reasonably straight manuka from the right area(or some suntan lotion) but if you just want a nice pot of reasonably priced table manuka with arguably a better flavour then Hawke's Bay manuka\kanuka every time. I wonder if those areas that traditionally called manuka- kahikatoa or kanuka will be selling their honey under those names. I keep feeling like blaming MPI for this debacle but beekeepers had years to get their house in order and didn't so it's no surprise that we got something imposed on us and being that it was done by government no surprise they got it wrong.
  4. 4 points
    Yes well of course, meth is a worse problem. Regarding minimum wagew and drug use, I can say that i have done my own fair share of work on little over minimum wage, and did not find this on it's own, caused me to use drugs. A lot of those guys have my sympathies though, there are a whole raft of reasons why some people just don't know any different, or see any reason to be any different. I can see the problems, just, I don't know the solutions.
  5. 3 points
    I had a quieter day the other day , cruising around the traps looking at newly mated queens and mulling over the State of the Nation. And this morning I read an article about the type of new breed company CEO who needs to be directing business's into the future of these challenging times. And I look back over the past twenty nine summers that we have kept bees , and I look at where we are today , and there is no doubt that we have thrived. We started keeping bees when honey was $1.90/kg. Our first Manuka crop was worth $4.80/kg. We gave the landowners 10%. We put it into a pot at $20/kg and sold it into the UK. We have been lucky to have family in strategic places who have shared our dreams. Even though the price was low, we kept a low profile and made money. When times were good we expanded, invested like wise virgins and when the oil in the pot ran out, we had something of value to sell to carry us through. The new breed of CEO needs to be a lateral thinker ..... a juggler of many pots with a view to the big picture, the long picture rather than the quick buck. The Chinese are very good at that. They think in terms of generations and plan for that. Diversification is the key. You need more than one string to your bow to give it the power to make the arrow hit the mark..... assuming you want to hit the mark!
  6. 3 points
    My experience is.. Yes. It’s not very often that I re visit a site ‘out of round’ but this August for reasons I can’t remember I called back to a site of 20, 14 days following fresh staples.. without checking my dairy to confirm exactly but from memory 16 of the 20 had cells at surprisingly similar size, indicating the urge struck at the same time. Very easy to suss this out in your own hives by just popping back inside 16 days. I cut cells out in some to see what happened and those queens are still laying eggs today as I shift them into the scrub.
  7. 3 points
    Well after last spring's terrible weather, things are looking really good this year for a decent crop. Its been a non stop flow on round here. Dandelions and willow. Plenty of gorse flower for pollen. The cabbage trees are in bloom and the creeping buttercup on the dairy farm next door is going well since late winter. The odd white clover flower is popping up. The dairy farmer has thoughtfully sown a crop of summer feed turnips over the back fence which is infested with a weed that I suspect is wild turnip. The girls are certainly working it hard.
  8. 2 points
    Or a large spoon & spatula in your own kitchen !
  9. 2 points
    They have supported many beekeepers.When I say support they have bought honey off them when others would not. Loyalty goes both ways,supplier and buyer.Packers must find it difficult when they do not know how many tonnes of each type of honey they are getting.Beekeepers must also find it hard when they do not know how much they will get paid for their honey.Very hard to budget.
  10. 2 points
    Galloping old age again huh pink cat
  11. 2 points
    Really Interesting article, and a bit scary too. Airborne rubbish the mgo and umf values yet put 25+ on their label. Even if they have ‘pollen’ written under it, it still takes advantage of the umf branding and is another confusing measurement for the consumer.
  12. 2 points
    I think its great that these folk can come here and make money to take back to their communities to improve their lives. But I am sick.of this kiwis are lazy s###t. NZ had an aging population, all the young people who would have done this work 30 yrs ago are well and truly past it now . The standard of housing for a cold climate like NZ has to be a lot more weather proof than where these folk come from . They do not bring their families and may struggle to house them on the manual labour wages just like kiwi families do. NZ workers have a good reputation as hard workers overseas .
  13. 2 points
    Hi @Alastair, my grandparents grew those potatoes at Waitoki many years ago , and now we’ve started growing them as well . Their other name is Urenika . Equally as descriptive ! they have purple flesh as well as the skin and everyone that tries them seems to like them .
  14. 2 points
    Plenty labour up there. Problem being, smoking a pound a week leaves them mentally incapable of productive work.
  15. 2 points
    a true beekeeper will still standing next spring?
  16. 2 points
    And all other honey types considered worthy of blending into Manuka. 20 bucks a kilo for Rewa,Kan,Dew. A box of that returned as much as me slogging within orchards. Was ridiculous but any start up could make a load of cash fast to reinvest and expand.
  17. 2 points
    Until everyone does it.
  18. 2 points
    The ones selling may be the only ones being realistic. I have mentioned this before but what I don't get are the bk's who are just going on like they always have, putting all their resources and effort into getting a large crop of bush/multi-floral, when there are drums of that in the shed unsold and unsaleable, and all their new crop is going to do is add to the over-supply.
  19. 1 point
    Does that make my stack of empty boxes in the firewood pile an "art installation"
  20. 1 point
    Dunno, I'm my area we get a minimum of 5+ but usually 6-9+
  21. 1 point
    They would certainly be harder to handle later. Wax softens as well as the honey......
  22. 1 point
    The bottom pic is Manuka off the Rukuhia peat . Our Kanuka is quite different to that
  23. 1 point
    Water is toxic in the right quantity
  24. 1 point
    The scientific literature says that Nandina species produces a chemical which breaks down to cyanide when ingested. Birds might die when they eat the berries, but children (and adults) are probably big enough to cope with the occasional accidental ingestion. Probably fine as long as you don't put it in your gob.
  25. 1 point
    Sounds more a concern than a risk thanks again
  26. 1 point
    The tomatoes are doin better than the pumpkins.
  27. 1 point
    Just another example of pushing resource demand past the limit.
  28. 1 point
    Drive around the BoP and boy there are a lot of new avo plantings, I hope for their sake that there will be a market for them as if supply goes up but demand doesn't, the price will only come down. Look what happened to honey!
  29. 1 point
    Please, send the rain this way... at the top end of the fabulous Bay of Plenty we have had zilch rain. Today... can't see the Kaimai's... can't see Katikati.... The Mount... gone, but here in the lonely top of the bay, nothing but sunshine, glorious sunshine and wilting veges... though the Pohutukawas' are loving it!
  30. 1 point
    Whatever was wrong I got an explosion of activity in that hive, many frames of beautiful worker brood, several frames drone brood (can i just cull them out?) plus plenty honey. Bees sure build up a level in their second season! It is the first time I have been able to see eggs. Still have not seen the Queen. As for the other hive it merged nicely.
  31. 1 point
    A normal spring,a little sick of the wet weather. One good thing is selection of bees that can mate in this weather will stay
  32. 1 point
    Canola crystalises fast and forms large crystals,not my favourie honey taste wise
  33. 1 point
    Just my opinion. But if you believe you are going to pack 250g or 500g jars, labeled, packed in shipping cartons and sell them to retail in any significant volume and clear $7.50 per kg, then go for it - fill your boots. That is before your standard MPI compliance, UMF licence, (SQF if you want to supply significant retailers) Halal, Kosher. Processing plant and equipment, finished goods stock holding. Weekly or even next day delivery bla, bla, etc etc
  34. 1 point
    Yep I think by April this year the situation will be worse ... than today, heard of hives 100$ including gst double brood on pallets if that's not a bail out sign or industry collapse sign what is? I came into the industry 24 years ago ish first 500 hives cost me 100 plus gst double brood box and 2 supers honey price 3.15kg ......
  35. 1 point
    I think what is being said is that under the existing market structure individual beekeepers have little leverage and are price takers. By creating a brand beekeepers have another potential means to dispose of their honey and have potential to add and create value. And after all that is no different to what you have done. And it doesn't require a budget of millions, just a smaller sale more targeted approach eg for some it may mean selling at a market, or to a local retail shop, not Chinese influencers and world domination.
  36. 1 point
    @yesbut shes very beautifull, are they nice bees .
  37. 1 point
    My wife is a vegetarian. She's not into veganism. I go along with it as she feeds me. I eat beef when I find it. Muttons good too. Avoid chook and pig.
  38. 1 point
    Some of the milk companies are attempting to stop the makers of other "milks" such as almond milk being allowed to call them milk. The argument goes that using the term milk is confusing for consumers, when the other products typically contain far less of all the goodies, than actual milk does. They claim these products are just some ground up oats, or whatever, dissolved in water. Not to mention they can contain quite a few artificial chemical additives, and way more sugar. I think they have a point.
  39. 1 point
    Ya wouldnt need to sell alot to put a smile on ya face. Just need to find suckers with bulging wallets and small brains. Bound to be afew thousand of em on the planet. Just gota find em. Problem i have is ones i meet with small brains have no money. Still lookin.
  40. 1 point
    Gorse is well known as a nursery crop for native regeneration...
  41. 1 point
    i recommend beginners and hobbyists don't stress about mixing brood and honey frames - much easier, and us beginners/hobbyists aren't selling honey i'll blame (give credit to) @tudor for a lot of my approaches to beekeeping too. Although i do have a bit of a creep of heavy full depth boxes which is entirely my fault./
  42. 1 point
    @Sam Bees 21 it would be worth checking on them after a week. I have put a full box of undrawn frames above an excluder before (because I had no drawn ones) and found they won’t go up. I then took a brood frame that was nearly hatched and put it in the middle and put an undrawn one down in the brood. It might not be best practice but it worked.
  43. 0 points
    Don't come over here as there is nothing happening.Still getting rain and wind.I don't think the rata will flower.Maybe a season with no honey at all and I have not seen that happen for a while.
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  45. 0 points
    Love the recycling!! My butternuts have only just got planted out. Not too worried about that cos I really like them over winter rather than summer.
  46. 0 points
    How much rain you want ? you can have most of whats coming to us this week . LOL.
  47. 0 points
    And in my ignorance my first thought was somebody need to do the laundry!
  48. 0 points
    Thank you Dansar - The only posts I come across as a beekeeper are courier post and gate posts!
  49. -1 points
    We’re getting daily rain and showers now . just as the Manuka is flowering .....
  50. -2 points
    There is poisonous that makes you feel unwell and teaches you a valuable life lesson and poisonous\Darwin award. I tend to draw the line at the Darwin award plants like oleander. Had one by my gate many years ago until I found a leaf in the mouth of my toddler which he had grabbed in passing from his pushchair. Fortunately no repercussions except for the oleander.
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