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  1. 12 points
    I have just watched the big expose on TV one about roundup in manuka honey. Man they must be short of news to put on such a anti roundup biased piece of garbage. No mention of other honey types which if they come from pasture you would expect to have higher residues and no mention about residues found in meat or vegetables or anything else we eat. End result will be a drop in honey sales for no practical good. I'm not a huge fan of roundup but it is a legal product used very extensively in New Zealand farming and beekeepers can't avoid it. All right they did mention that beekeepers couldn't avoid it but didn't mention that neither can vegetable growers and animal farmers. It was a sensationalised piece of one-sided garbage and unfortunately typical of the pathetic excuse for journalism we have to put up with so often these days. It deliberately damaged New Zealand's beekeepers to score a few points against a chemical company
  2. 10 points
    It appears even Crims can be good guys. Our landi was delivered back to our mechanics today. Whoever dropped it off just parked it up and walked away without saying anything. @jamesc how did you get on with your gates.
  3. 9 points
    What a blatant piece of advertising from purity to the detriment of every beekeeper in New Zealand. As for some of the crap from the other beekeeper . Saying that hives have died from roundup poisoning is unbelievable. Hives do get killed by operators spraying gorse but it is not roundup. Poisonings of this type are almost invariably caused by organo- silicate surfactants which the powers that be refuse to label as an insecticide because it's a sticking agent despite the fact that it is lethal to bees wet or dry. We now have the general public thinking our honey is poisonous (except for purity's who if you listen closely actually admit that they do sell honey with residues in it). We have the general public thinking that our hives are regularly drenched in a deadly chemical and that every beekeeper in the country is losing sleep over this. We have a beekeeper on national television saying basically that farmer shouldn't be allowed to use roundup. Way to tell the farmers what to do. I'm sure that will go down well. Selling your own product by rubbishing everybody else's is unethical and despicable. Perhaps TV one would like to know how much spraying goes on amongst the seed growing area where a lot of the companies hives live. This whole thing is a lose\lose situation for everybody as it is the type of thing where any argument no matter how factual will cause negative publicity. I really do believe in freedom of speech but people should at least think before they open their mouths.. Oh and while I'm ranting, journalists what happened to balance and fact checking stop.
  4. 8 points
    *basis My submission is as below, as you will see I did use some of the points raised by you guys.. (thanks). It will probably not result in anything but I do think that the more people who make a complaint that it will make them think more carefully in future if they know they are going to cause themselves extra paperwork. Given the brevity of my emails I deserve an award for stopping at point 10... Programme: TV1 News Date of broadcast: 26,27 July 2020 Time of broadcast: 6pm Channel: TVNZ 1 The Programme Standards I believe were breached are as follows: Balance - Yes Accuracy - Yes The reasons that I found this programme breached the standards: This programme ran a segment on Glyphosate (Roundup) being found in Manuka Honey and claims that it has killed beehives. These claims are inaccurate and unbalanced. 1. All honey in NZ is subject to roundup, not just manuka honey. Pasture honey is far more at risk than Manuka Honey due to proximity of round up usage. 2. End result will be a drop in honey sales for no practical good 3. No mention about residues found in meat or vegetables or anything else we eat. Why pick on Manuka honey other than for tabloid shock. 4. They did mention that beekeepers couldn't avoid it but didn't mention that neither can vegetable growers and animal farmers. 5. It is not actual glyphosate they are finding, but the metabolites (residue after glyphosate has broken down). 6. Fact is that a high percentage of food consumed in the western world will contain trace amounts of glyphosate. By giving the impression to the average viewer that will associate NZ manuka with being loaded with roundup, long term will hurt us all. 7. A balanced article can be found here: https://analytica.co.nz/DesktopModules/EasyDNNNews/DocumentDownload.ashx?portalid=0&moduleid=1968&articleid=52&documentid=45 8. Hives do get killed by operators spraying gorse but it is not roundup. Poisonings of this type are almost invariably caused by organo- silicate surfactants which the powers that be refuse to label as an insecticide because it's a sticking agent despite the fact that it is lethal to bees wet or dry. 9. Usually Tordon or Grazon is used on gorse with sticking agents. Roundup does work but it is not very effective on gorse and farmers know this. Effectively telling farmers not to use roundup on gorse is nonsensical. 10. The IARC placed glyphosate in its hazard category "Group 2A: probably carcinogenic to humans†along with red meat, hot beverages, and working as a barber. The evidence on carcinogenicity was less robust than for agents such as bacon, salted fish, oral contraceptives and wine."
  5. 8 points
    They say there is a first time for everything. I have made an official complaint about the two news items and encourage others to follow suit. I have grown increasingly tired over the years of seeing beekeeping(news) stories that have just been taken word for word from someone with their own agenda . Mostly they have been pointless bits of fluff that do nothing but misinform the general public and raise my blood pressure but this last effort !. A month in the making! You would think even a television journalist would realise they were being led round with a ring in their nose by that time. There are so many things to do with beekeeping that could give them really good in-depth articles on things like overstocking and the effects of having half 1 million hives more than we need.
  6. 8 points
    Whilst we're being clear, it would be great if you could clarify yours and your company's position on the following: What are your limits of detection for glyphosate? Who is the independent organisation that offers you certification for being "Glyphosate Free"? To what international standard is this measured against? It's all well and good to say that you didn't initiate this, but there seems to be a lot of misinformation floating around and it's very convenient that you seem to end up at the centre of it weighing in, especially when you insinuate such scaremongering statements as the following on your website: "Glyphosate is herbicide used to kill weeds, but it has been linked to cancers, especially non-Hodgkin lymphoma. By testing for glyphosate and receiving certification for being free of the herbicide, PURITI is further offering consumer confidence when it comes to getting the best Manuka honey possible available in the market."
  7. 7 points
    Well hot darn diggity dog .... our local cop is a gem . Acting on a tipoff , he made an arrest of a gate thief .Sounds like the beginning of a joke, but no.
  8. 7 points
    Done 51 hives today, only one mite wash that came back with nill mites from a 350 bee sample then back home for a tutu on my new mean machine, just gotta set up the dualies then off for a test run, still got a few small sites to shift, I may only just get through to next season but atleast I got the last 2 machines I needed this season even if they aren't new
  9. 7 points
    Just to let you all know I have been appointed onto the AFB Board as the APINZ Board member rep.
  10. 7 points
    I am surprised they are using UMF 5, UMF 15 is a lot more effective for that sort of work. A study I read some years ago said that if a honey is used that effectively kills invading bacteria at the wound, the healing is also twice as quick because the wound is kept wet instead of scabbing, and there is also less scaring. I have my own success story to tell about honey, an elderly neighbour got an eye infection, went to the doctor and was given a course of antibiotics. However at the end of the course his eye was no better. The guy had puss coming out of his eye and was very uncomfortable, said it was throbbing and painful and he couldn't even sleep at night. So in desperation he found a jar of manuka I had given him some time previously, stuck a big dob on his eye and rubbed it in with his fist. Woke up the next day, much improved. So he repeated the treatment that evening, and the next day, better again. Did it another couple of times, and complete recovery.
  11. 6 points
    My daughter Has a leg ulcer that’s being treated at the local doctors office. I was pretty impressed when the nurse asked her if she would be OK with having Manuka honey put on it.
  12. 6 points
    Way back in 1996 it was a bad year for the honey crop, too cold if I remember right. So I didn't shift my hives to the high country, kept them all on the Taieri Plains. It was a hard season for the bees, but they did get Kanuka honey in. Not a lot, only about 1800 kgs. Once it was creamed and packed t was being sold through a local health food shop in 500g jars. One day I was called by the shop owner to fulfill an unusually large order, upon questioning her I discovered that a nearby breeder of race horses had been treating a large infected wound on one of his prize stallions. I arranged to personally bring the consignment of honey to the breeder to find out for myself how the honey was being used. Upon arrival I was welcomed in to the stables and introduced to the stallion. He told me that the vet had been treating the wound for more than two weeks but it progressively got worse. The vet informed him that the horse would have to be put down within the week. After a quick search on internet he discovered the healing properties of honey, looked for it locally and found mine in a shop just down the road from his property. So, as a last resort he first cleaned the wound then filled it with nearly 1kg of my Kanuka honey, dressed it and waited one week before removing the dressing. That is where I come in. After removing the dressing he was astounded by the improvement of the wound, the infection was gone and the flesh was starting to grow back. Immediately he needed more honey, thus the call. Apparently the horse's body had absorbed the honey and there was very little waste. There was no need to wash the wound, he had the horse laying down and using a spoon and spatula refilled the wound and redressed it. All the nearly empty honey jars went to the house for his own consumption. I checked in on him about three weeks later and he showed me the horse out in a paddock, still with a dressing on but much smaller than the dressing previous. He was over the moon that this very expensive stallion was now trotting around. He said it would never race again but it would be used for breeding. The owner, Jim Anderton (now passed away) bought another two cartons of honey to keep in case it was needed again. He informed the vet of the outcome and he was sceptical but had to accept it as the horse was now running around.
  13. 6 points
    Life, we are told, is all about balance. Work, family , other stuff .... These days I get a big yawn reading and watching about honey ..... Manuka Honey, and how the industry is thriving. Rather than complain, perhaps TV one would do an article on the not so rosy side of Beekeeping ..... the business collapses, redundancies, layoffs, overstocking, hive site rentals, disease breakouts and minefield of beaurocratic rigmarole just to sell the stuff. Just a thought as we try to get enthused to go and crack lids and jump start trucks with flat batteries.
  14. 6 points
    Even the Canterbury beekeeper with 'you cant work out what's wrong with them and they don't get better'. That's not Roundup on the gorse or even the stickers. The bees would be dead on the baseboard or outside the hive. It can accentuate the effects of nosemas though Reminds me of a number of beekeepers in the media who blamed a new pathogen we found back 2015 or so, for their hive losses. They never got their bees tested but blamed the new pathogen nonetheless
  15. 6 points
    See the attached PDF for a good summary from regulatory and governmental agencies from around the World on Glyphosate, including the controversial IARC determination in 2015. Links in the document to the original source from the various agencies including our own NZEPA's one in 2016. "IARC placed glyphosate in its hazard category "Group 2A: probably carcinogenic to humans” along with red meat, hot beverages, and working as a barber. The evidence on carcinogenicity was less robust than for agents such as bacon, salted fish, oral contraceptives and wine." GlyphosateInfographic_GLP-1.pdf
  16. 6 points
    Some misinformation in the article. First off, the beekeeper complaining that as soon as the gorse around the corner is sprayed (implying roundup), all his hives die. "Nothing you can do" he said. Then how come I spray the grass around my hives with roundup, get it on the landing board and on the bees in the process, and no visible damage to the bees at all. Second, it showed a shot of dead gorse, claiming it had been sprayed with roundup. It was sprayed with something else, not roundup. How do I know? The grass around the gorse was fine. If roundup had been used it would also have killed the grass. The gorse was sprayed with something more selective, perhaps escort, or something else selective, that kills gorse, but not grass. All this brings up the question - if roundup is banned, what will farmers and others use instead? It is completely naive to think they will just let weeds go rampant, that's not going to happen. They would use something else. Right now, roundup is the safest in the bunch which is why it's so popular, banning it and moving to anything else would be a step backwards.
  17. 6 points
    The little truck that could.
  18. 6 points
    This was a mistake that should have been quickly and quietly fixed in-house. It has detracted from the good work that has been going on and overall I think both the board and the management team have been doing a really good job with a lot of new initiatives that have and will reduce the incidence of AFB. I would still like the board to be made up of elected members rather than appointed members. The current process leaves many beekeepers feeling disenfranchised.
  19. 6 points
    Last site upgraded for the year, hives like it way better 16 inches+ off the ground
  20. 6 points
    There is a lot of money being invested in goat and sheeps milk. Local goat farm, milks 3000 will double production this spring - have built another 3000 goat operation almost next door to the first farm. And a friend is building a brand new dedicated sheep milking and plans on milking 800 ewes this spring, so long as he finishes the milking shed. It is his second year of operation and the returns out perform dairy cows....
  21. 5 points
    First day seriously working bees today after a nearly 4 month break, always interesting to see how they have fared over winter. During the day i found 3 deadouts, best I could tell one due to mites and 2 went queenless. Some hives weak some hives strong. But had to take a pic of this one, freakish. It was a big strong hive that did extra well last season plus provided several 2 kg packages of bees to be sold, and has carried on the same. Double brood box absolutely choca with bees. Most hives only a fraction of this many bees I should add.
  22. 5 points
    I don't normally need to raise any queens in the spring and if I do I wouldn't start before mid September. It's an interesting little micro environment where I live. Absolutely amazing for mating the odd Queen but completely useless for honey production. If it is warm enough they get a gum flow most of the winter but they do lose a lot of bees because of it and tend to come through pretty weak. Strong hives tend to lose about half their bees over the winter and weak hives tend to die out. I think it is partly losing flying bees when the sun goes behind a cloud and partly Nosema brought on by the stress of trying to work nectar flows in lousy conditions. I know my father once lost 600 nucleus hives that were overwintered here. There are hundreds of corporate hives within flying distance these days so I hope it is eucalypt that my bees are getting and not robbing out deadouts . It happened last year here and I am well within the red zone.
  23. 5 points
    if anyone didn't like the article on TVNZ then there is a complaints process, that appears to be quite easy and quick to fill out. If everyone who disputes the facts likes to do something constructive, here it is: Making a Formal Complaint TVNZ.CO.NZ
  24. 5 points
    It can be done, one is all I started with. However it is often advised to start with two, so that if some disaster happens to one of them, it can be re-colonized from the other one. For a skilled beekeeper it is usually more cost effective to build one yourself, however for a brand new beekeeper there is some knowledge required to start from scratch and it may be better to buy a complete pre existing hive. The price of honey has collapsed over the last couple of years, so some beekeepers are selling off hives cheaply, if you shop around a while you will probably get one at a much better price than $350. My opinions? Don't buy this supposedly "sophisticated" stuff. Caring for a beehive, and learning how to care for it, involves quite a bit of time and effort. The flowhives that allow you to harvest honey by turning a tap are inordinately expensive, but the main issue is they are promoted like that's all you have to do to keep bees. Just go out there and turn the tap every now and then. The reality is that taking honey from your hive is a tiny part of what you have to do through the year to care for your hive. It's best to start with standard, mainstream equipment, there is a reason it is mainstream, and that is because the years have proved the Langstroth hive to be the easiest and most bee friendly hive for use in NZ. It is also what most others you will talk with will be using, and having the same gear as those who will be advising you is a plus. After a year or two when you have a better understanding of your beehive, you may choose to buy a flowbox to put on it. 45 kg per hive is not naive thinking. BUT - the hive would have to be correctly managed, and as a newby you will likely make a few mistakes that will affect your harvest. The hive would also have to be in a good location, if it is in a poor location it will not achieve a 45 kg harvest regardless how well it is otherwise managed.
  25. 5 points
    Yes, indeed. The powers of compulsory inspection of beehives on private land go back to the Apiaries Act 1906. And yes, it is a serious power, and one that the Govt does not let loose of easily. The ability to enter onto private land to inspect beehives for AFB is one of the essential powers of the AFB PMP if AFB is to be eliminated, I would suggest...
  26. 5 points
    I may be completely wrong on this Nick but my understanding is that under the AFB PMP destruction can only be ordered on hives that have clinical symptoms of AFB. It appears that the management agency has been using other legislation to order the destruction of stored gear with a high likelihood of being infected with AFB. Depending on how you see things this is either a clever use of legislation to help clean up AFB in outfits that are hopelessly compromised by their own incompetence or an attack on individual beekeepers rights and who are they going to target next. Given the number of AFB infections that have hopped the fence into my hives from incompetent beekeepers over the years I am a bit inclined to go with the clever use of legislation hypothesis. There must however be a reasonable balance between an individual's rights and the power of the state.
  27. 5 points
    Most of them still had plenty of bees but I wont know until the next time I check them if some of the queens have dround, there were heavy losses in a few but the pallets pretty much saved them they were all still strapped together, thankfully it was only 2 pallets because I had shifted the other 4 away.
  28. 5 points
    It seems to me a lot of acquisitions Comvita has made over the past 10 years or so haven’t stayed around long before being closed or written down to next to nothing . Must be great to have investors to keep you propped up no matter how bad your business decisions have been.
  29. 4 points
    Nice try at putting a positive spin on the News Story, and your involvement in it. You were either very foolish, or very self-serving to let yourself get involved. There can be no positive spin put on that story- it was damaging, and has come at a time when we can least afford Own Goals.
  30. 4 points
    That is sadly true - in fact one of the 'stupidly' things that was done was the loose use of the phrase "low grade" honey and aligning it with the 'low value' and - ahem - the strong inference that it was therefore, 'low quality'. Then, when queried about the usage of 'words' was explained that it was just an industry term and that - ahem - it wasn't actually used in marketing to customers (was it? ...) horse bolted, door closed.
  31. 4 points
    My perspective as a newbee, that may be of use in your information gathering. I just finished my first year as a hobby beekeeper, though I spent years before attending a beekeeping workshop, an AFB course, beekeeping association educational meetings, access to others' hives, and lots of reading. ( I wanted to be able to look after my bees properly once we moved to a bigger property). Sadly, both my hives have died off this Winter, and fortunately I learned enough to be able to work out that they got knocked back too much by varroa in autumn, despite treatment, an episode of queen loss, and there were not enough winter bees to take them through winter. They chilled to death because the colony was too small to generate enough communal warmth. (No, no AFB, checked every frame). I am currently making hiveware to start this Spring with 4-5 hives, because I must have bees in my life again. You learn a lot in that first year, but mainly that you never stop learning - even after decades as a beekeeper, the veterans tell me. My experience is that you need more time than you think visiting your hives, reading what is happening inside, assessing and treating for varroa. I have quite a stash of beekeeper-related paraphernalia now, so you need a designated space for that, especially if you decide you want to make your own storeys and frames to save money. Add in the time it takes to paint your hives, and wash your beesuits and gloves, and weed your apiary and make swarm boxes and record what you saw/did each visit for each hive etc etc. However, I figure if my hobby was golf it would cost more, in equipment, club membership, green fees, suitable footwear and clothing, and time, so it is all relative - and that is what I tell my family.
  32. 4 points
    so why would a towny reporter be interested in glyphosate in honey ? how would he even know such a thing even existed ? of all the contaminants in all our different foods why did he do an article on glyphosate in honey ? in my opinion it wasn’t something he thought up himself, someone in the know has whispered in his ear. knowing who would answer the question of why . Could be labs wanting even more of our dollars than they already get. Could be companies like Puriti who make a big deal out of testing it’s going to be someone with an agenda and someone who will benefit financially from it.
  33. 4 points
    Adam. I'm glad you didn't initiate the story but purity does come across as cheering it on. I know when you do this sort of thing you have no control over editing and hindsight is a wonderful thing but every beekeeper and packer in the country should have steered as far away from this thing as they possibly could of.
  34. 4 points
    The Management Agency directs the affected beekeepers to burn used supers when there is high levels of AFB as described above AND the beekeeper has not complied with the traceability requirements that he/she agreed to in their DECA. If the affected beekeepers had maintained the traceability of their gear as they agreed in their DECA it would be relatively straight forward to differentiate which gear came from infected hives and which gear came from uninfected hives....and in this situation the Management Agency would only direct the beekeeper to burn gear from infected beehives. Allowing infected gear to be put back on beehives is not doing anyone (the affected beekeeper or neigbouring beekeepers) any favours.
  35. 4 points
    When we used the staples in Winter our hives were exactly like yours really damp and the poor ones never recovered. This Autumn we reverted back to Bayvarol and the hives are looking awesome.
  36. 4 points
    For myself I would use table grade in preference to medicinal Manuka and I would rate manuka comb honey as a bit better again. It's not just the UMF factor that makes honey an effective wound dressing.
  37. 4 points
    Imagine the levels of AFB in a ropy larva. Now imagine those same levels (or higher) seen from a teaspoon of wax bits on the floor. Or a few pieces of debris from supers. No brood this no clinical signs. What do you do ?
  38. 4 points
    The AP2 guys do have that power if needed. And it has to be that way. Or the whole thing wouldn't work soon as some disease spreading person decided to say "no you can't come on my land".
  39. 4 points
    My personal feeling which I have stated before is that board members should be elected, not appointed. I did try unsuccessfully to get on the board a few years ago. I am a member of both organisations and far more interested in how existing methods and new technology can be used to further the goal of elimination than in any political machinations.
  40. 4 points
    The concept of "needs someone or a group to keep it in check" strikes to the heart of it, IMHO. This is a PMP developed by beekeepers for beekeepers. It was not imposed from 'the outside'. My understanding is that APINZ has offered NZ Beekeeping Inc the opportunity to have someone join the Mgmt Agency Board. If NZ Beekeeping Inc is serious about a positive contribution to the elimination of AFB, surely this should be a step forward?
  41. 4 points
    The AFB PMP now has an in-house AP1 which is a huge change from only having government employees in the role. The decision to do this has a lot of ramifications mostly I think for the good. In the past AP1 s have done an excellent job but have had to work with their own bureaucracies which has caused problems at times especially when it comes to things like prosecutions.
  42. 4 points
    Frazz for what its' worth I've found Fastways now Aramax to be the pick of the bunch. Really good service interisland anyway.
  43. 4 points
    CourierPost are all care and no responsibility. We have used them for decades, and generally they are an amazing service. We meet the Courier, most days during the shipping season, at Taipa in the Far North at 16:00, and 99% of the time they are with our Customers the next morning. But, if there is an issue, the most you can expect is a Replacement CourierPost Ticket, they never cover the cost of the Queens lost. We value the service, and understand if Beekeepers rock the boat too much, and demand them to cover the cost of the Queens lost(which they won't), then they will just stop carrying live bees. It is a very tiny part of their business, and they don't need the hassle. To help the Queens get through, safely and on time, make sure that they are packaged properly, and clearly identified as Live Bees. Do not stick them in Courier Bags or Envelopes.
  44. 4 points
    -4c outside... but I think we having HotDogs for linch.
  45. 4 points
    All honeys have the hydrogen peroxide effect. And for many types of healing, that is enough, when combined with the hygroscopic effect of the honey on the wound. That hygroscopicity (sorry - I just had to structure the sentence so I can use that word...) is what helps to keep the wound moist. I clearly recall Peter Molan describing this aspect. And then he followed up with a sudden, jarring photo of using honey for mastitis and other absolutely 'uhhh...' inspiring slides. He was a delight to listen to, for sure. You came away believing in the powers of honey, and manuka honey, in healing. But also with some images that still disturb my mind...
  46. 4 points
    I hear you brother . Without wanting to give too much sensitive info away ..... when we pack honey we put our honey into the jar at $20/kg. We then add cost of jar, label, labour and a bit of freight. The customers don't seem to baulk too much. So when Uncle @Ted tells me I am dreaming at $9.00/kg in the drum ..... it is a nice dream that turns out as reality. The other thing I am a great fan is not selling too cheaply. I prefer not to buy Chinese tools because they don't last. If a product is worth slightly more, consumers are naturally inclined to think it is 'Good' ..... what ever that means.
  47. 4 points
    From what i understand, the wound dressing level for Manuka honey is 10+ according to Dr Molan, or what he would call "medical Manuka" I think the wound dressing market use 16-8+. The higher the + after 18 the less effective it becomes, or there is no better effect.
  48. 4 points
    So he did change the rego to him yesterday. Fortunately it was just as easy to change it back to me . Best $9 I’ve ever spent
  49. 4 points
    Undersupply helps keep prices up and is way better than oversupply. I have no idea what this foreign propolis is like, it might be fantastic stuff which makes you wonder why they can't sell under their own country's name. Hopefully one day a reporter will look into the entire beekeeping industry in New Zealand and I for one will be quite happy to name and shame those who deserve it. Just because something is legal doesn't mean you should do it.
  50. 4 points
    If it works beekeepers will definitely buy it. With regards to hobbyists, same applies, they will buy it banding together, or maybe a club will purchase one to rent out to members. If I were you, I would take up James Corson's offer to trial it - freight it down to him - that's a sizeable operation. Then perhaps ChCh Paul can trial it. He's a smaller operator, so you would have two at both ends of the commercial semi/commercial spectrum. Get them to trial it, and if they think it's successful contact the Apiarist's Advocate for editorial interview & advert. Maybe contact the committee of a Club such as the Auckland Beekeepers Club. They have a huge amount of members Auckland Beekeepers Club AUCKLANDBEEKEEPERSCLUB.ORG.NZ Auckland Beekeepers Club
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