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  2. @Adam Boot Good piece Adam A post or two back you used Champagne and Caviar as examples in a Marketing comparison. Personally I understand what Champagne is and how it is consumed, same for Caviar How do international consumers use Manuka Honey?
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  4. View Offer HiveGate HiveGate.docx Price 25.30 NZD Submitter SeanMonica Submitted 04/22/19 Category Equipment For Sale
  5. Good observation Not an issue if the dripping is from outside frames in a single but gets complicated if the dripping is from the second box where there are few Bees and the dripping is onto the poor Bees below. This is a new issue thats come to light For the years Ive used the Staple system it has usually been in single brood hives and it was known that the outside staples were inclined to absorb water as the Bees move off them and toward a central cluster. My view with regard this happening in my own Hives is that its probably a bit like a winter OA dribble. Some Bees might die in some Hives yet not in others. Come Spring I dont have dead outs from it Best way to avoid it though is to treat earlier and run 50% spent Staples into winter rather than fresh ones. Having said that I currently have a trial going where the Hives received their Staples late, (early Apri)l and will receive another lot early May. This is asking for trouble IMO but will be an interesting test.
  6. Hi Denis There is a lot of non Manuka business out there. It is a very busy and competitive hunting ground. Clover, clover blends and bush honey of varying forms are prolific. Global prices in this market are very low. High volume is available at very low margin. I am happy to take a crack at any market if it can deliver value. there is no sought that consumers will pay a premium for New Zealand honey. The premium though is small, maybe 15-20%. If you look at some of the prices via this link you can see honey retailing at less than the NZ bulk price. Always good to get a but. No apology needed. You have a good point. However I come from the position that New Zealand is a small producer on a global stage. If the world honey market is approx 2 million tonnes per annum, we as New Zealand Honey Inc have to find a market for less than 2% of the global demand. Within that demand there is honey sold at $100+ per kg and honey sold at $4 per kg. The majority is sold at far less than $10 How good are we at creating a value proposition that resonates? How good are we at selling and developing markets? How good are we at New Product Development? How good are we at marketing? In answer to your question - 'With your market knowledge, is there any chance of creating a sustainable international market for 10000T of native bush flavoured non Manuka honey in next two years that can pay a living return of a minimum $6-$9kg ex gate' Yes - You will need a multiple of companies coming up with great ideas and marketing strategies and value propositions that creates a tangible reason for the consumer. A reason that supersedes price by the required %. There is a big difference between $6 and $9 it may be that market penetration requires $5 - $7 for a period. Have we got enough companies capable of this?
  7. Seeing as how you ask, I haven't done a wash for years and don't intend to. OA stuff in all the time, in varying stages of decrepidness.
  8. I've just joined the staples brigade. Been following this thread for a while and talking to others in the local bee club who are converts. Only two strong 2 FD brood hives that have had Apivar and Bayvarol treatments for years. I take honey off late in the season so my autumn treatments start late. Put strips in 3 per box. Washed 98/225 pre treatment (but no obvious signs of DWV or other problems) so will definitely look for improvement and Nikki's experience here has given me cause for hope. When should I do my next wash to check? I have one Hive doctor base and one SS mesh floor. There is seepage from the HDoctor base, so thinking staples have absorbed water and are dripping, and it's not really cold here yet. Thoughts/recommended actions?
  9. That was definitely an eek I heard John. Eke is used (not necessarily with beehives) as in 'eke it out' aka 'stretch it out'. Makes sense.
  10. I reduced my plastic frames as follows: Make 4 small cuts in the 2 vertical beam, but leave the beam longer by 8mm or so. With a boxcutter, cut off the excess of plastic foundation. You can cut it an break it off. Take the end bar (with or without a slit) of a wooden frame (maybe you have some broken lying around) Cut wooden bar to size. Drill two holes per vertical (plastic frame) for the nails to go in. Place wooden bar in place and lock in place with the nails. Works for me, a bit of work but the frame doesn't warp. Photo's attached.
  11. That’s a complicated question which will have a different answer from whoever you ask . Perception and realism are very very different things . Im going to liken it to putting beehives right next to the road . Not the best idea
  12. So it would be ok if it was out of sight out of mind ?
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  14. A co-op will only work if the suppliers are loyal to it.How can the coop buyers get the contracts overseas if they do not know how much honey they have.I was at the Greymouth meeting and hat off to Bruce for organising these meeting around N.Z.
  15. Talking with some visiting relatives from clog land. Love our creamed pasture blends. There main supermarkets sell cheap honeys sourced from 'E.U and Non E.U' countries. Any place. Not many other options - Local Dutch honey is expensive compared- but not sold in the big supermarkets, more select stores. This https://www.ah.nl/zoeken?query=honing is Albert Heijn - Surely New Zealand honey could find a place on the shelf for discerning customers??
  16. NZ has had co-op or single desk selling for most of the last 100 years with the PPMD morphing into the HMA which was finally dismantled In the 70's. Add to this the Honey Co-Op based out of Timaru that lasted 50 years. You could also argue the major players such as Arataki, Airborne Honey, Pure NZ Honey, and now Midlands are defacto co-ops as those companies have large loyal supply bases. No the problem we have is we now produce three times more honey than we have done in the history of Beekeepeing in NZ, and we blindly expect the existing sellers to work harder to move bigger volumes of something not high on many consumers wish list. If a new co-op can create a brand new market then hats off lets go, but if it is only going to displace existing product in an existing market, then not so exciting
  17. Very interesting report @Adam Boot. Thanks. Sorry, while you don't deserve a 'but' I need to add one. The unfortunate side of chasing the high value/low volume side of any product, is what happens to the remaining volume, and what effect it has on an industry. For the last ten years the major players have been telling the world if it isn't Manuka, it's not worth eating. They were so successful with this message, that when MPI created a standard that only allowed a small% of product to meet the "new" standard, who on earth would touch the rest of the honey produced in NZ. While in no way am I blaming your company Adam, you are continuing the message. It is an interesting discussion point as to who is most to blame for our industry situation. The exporter who created the hype of endless riches for anything related to Manuka, or the producer who blindly took their greed and produced endless quantities of a product they knew was not Manuka. Now I know it can take years to develop new products/markets, but my question to you Adam is fairly simple. With your market knowledge, is there any chance of creating a sustainable international market for 10000T of native bush flavoured non Manuka honey in next two years that can pay a living return of a minimum $6-$9kg ex gate. Not saying can you do it, just is it realistic. With near a million hives, this surplus is growing every year, and if your answer is maybe, then the false hope many are relying on at the moment is not going to pay the bills. NOTE: Because we all know Manuka varies in quality and quantity every year, your top % Manuka may well disappear if the producer is stuck with their failed Manuka every third year.
  18. I think there is Manuka selling, just maybe the cream?? And those selling are keeping a tight lid on details?? No one has shown interest in our clover. I tried those two asking or 'all' types of honey wanted in the free Beekeeper. Nicks. this rain is much needed-
  19. I'm pretty sure it wasnt the Apilife that caused my Bay tree, Grape vine and Runner beans by the hive to all of a sudden start dying shortly after I was seeing dead and dying bees all around the hive, along the path and even down in the courtyard below the hive. The part of the grape vine on the other side of the shed is still green. The only part of the Bay tree that has started to green up again, is a small lower branch that look like they had been protected by the upper ones. I dont use two treatments at the same time so hadnt used the OAV. Inexperience definitely doesnt help
  20. I have to agree with you there. That cow race , although well constructed, is exactly in the wrong place and not a good look for the public to be staring straight at
  21. So there is a co-op....it gets confusing when i also read that buyers havent got hold of producers leaving them stuck with full drum loads in their store rooms. Makes it seem like you have to do your own selling.
  22. Reminds me of the km long tailrace that the cows have to walk along on a dairy farm between Atiamuri and Taupō. I’m usually doing the regulation 104/hr which is 108/hr via the GPS, for about 5mins and those poor cows are still walking trying to get to their food. Does it increase some magical property in the milk? all that walking.
  23. Probable poisoning In my early days of OAV and other alternative ways of combating mites I had cases that appeared to be the result of poisoning. Thats Hives with rivers of dead Bees out front or hives with layers of dead bees on the floor. I was certain that they were being poisoned. There were always some hives though that didnt seem to suffer and it was this anomaly that caused much confusion. I was sugar shaking in the spring /summer and seeing very few mites but by the time May came around and the Hives were poorly it was a matter of trying to save the 4 or 5 frames of Bees that were left so it didnt occur to me to open the hive up and start shaking Bees. Overall it was about inexperience.
  24. I can't help feeling that any Co-op big enough to compete on the world market would be too big for individual beekeeper shareholders to have much say in how it was run.
  25. Also wondering @Adam Boot if the picture looks so rosy why is no one buying Manuka ?
  26. The question many of us are asking @Adam Boot
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