Forgot your password?
Or sign in with one of these services
Posted September 28, 2016
Does it clean solid pollen frames
yep it cleans everything, the hardest stuff to clean is actually the newer wax not quite black.
Very nice Tony. Is the wax sludge worth rendering to recover any useable wax for recoating the frames or does it get disposed of?
not worth rendering I tried it was more work than it was worth, I use it as tree fertilizer for all my tree plantings.
Impressive [USER=165]@tony[/USER]. So fast and zero chemicals.
thanks Rob, it will be a bit more efficient once I get the water to recycle, I'm getting close my plan is use rain water then recycle the used water as far as I can, as you can see it discolours real fast and filtering is one big job, I could probably do it now but just don't quite have the last bits I need.
Very impressive and so fast. Well done
Posted September 29, 2016
That looks awesome!
Very nice [USER=165]@tony[/USER].
Did you presoak/preblast/presteam the frames. They look wet in the box.
No not exactly, My kids (in the video), hosed these boxes down they had gotten wet and manky while waiting to be cleaned so they hosed off all excess mucky pollen etc plus had some rain during the day. These boxes belong to another beekeeper I'm cleaning for, but It does seem the dirtier they are the easier they are to clean. So to answer the question No, the plan for the design was to just bring old gear from the field clean rewax and put away. This has been few years in the making and still not perfected it but as you can see we are close currently the kids are doing 500 frames day
Posted October 1, 2016
Fantastic machine. Sure beats everything and every way I've tried!
[USER=165]@tony[/USER] Is that machine using a water blaster or a steam cleaner.
[USER=72]@Trevor Gillbanks[/USER] just a waterblaster, maintaining quite high pressure, I'm in discussion with the pro's in this field I think I can run even higher pressure and play with the nozzles a bit but we talking quite big dollars getting to the next level, I want to play with different nozzle's to see if I can get the corners a bit more cleaner, they are the toughest parts to get clean, we have been playing with this for a good 10 years now possibly even 15 since MK1 which was a couple fish bins and cleaned one side at a time. Future development will be some automation and tidy up filtration.
Ive been playing round with old frames and have found that leaving them in a tank of water (trough) makes them much easier to clean.
Would this addition to your system negate the need for higher and costly pressures?
Posted October 2, 2016
[USER=2699]@Philbee[/USER] yes I think I will give it go, [USER=178]@Kiwi Bee[/USER] got me thinking about it in a previous comment, I guess it would come down to length of time needed to soak, would it be a days, week month, months?, and how many frames that need to be done, Any ideas on soaking time?,
The other thought I had was chilling the frames, making the wax a bit more brittle could work also. We clean 2000 frames last week, I have at least that to go.
Ive currently got a few hundered FD frames soaking in un used sheep troughs.
They went in 30/9/16
Ill have a look at them during the week.
Others Ive done have just been rain soaked.
I burnt 1000 the other day but am now more inclinde to look at cleaning them after seeing what a difference a soaking makes.
Burning bit extreme, I can clean them for under a dollar each, makes frames quite cheap being able to re-use them, if you want me to blast them you not that far away, at least you can get them back into your hives.
Thanks Tony, You well may end up under a pile of frames.
One issue for me is Storage and Handling.
I store old frames in wool fadges and it is surprizing how few they hold and how difficult they are to handle.
The Sums for me where, $2.40+ gst for a waxed FD frame minus an estimated dollar or so to clean.
minus the storage, handling and transport.
The burning of 1000 frames probably cost me $1000
at the most.
Having said this I do see the value in your proposed service and will talk to you about it further
I could fill the boat with old frames and drop them off on the way to Opape
What a great excuse to good fishing
true fully understand, I had wool fadges and fert bags even old sugar bags, however now that I'm into recycling mode it wont be so bad for storage and frames will stay in use more.
[USER=2699]@Philbee[/USER] Hey beekeeping is a cool job why not drop frames of and go fishing, I got a few funny stories about launching from Opape.
Posted October 3, 2016
[USER=165]@tony[/USER] I had a look and scape of my soaking frames today.
As I thought, the water gets in very quickly
A day may be enough
oh yea, do you think it makes them easier to clean
Ill give one a full scape tomorrow.
but the quick scatch that gave the one today indicated that the pollen and wax was much softer.
I have scraped plenty of dry pollen frames so I will know the difference
I hope you can read that:thumbdown: