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If some fields of clover don't produce nectar, what attracts the pollinating bees ?

Pollen?

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A good clover flow does this to 5 frame nucs..........

 

How long did it take from placing the nucs to getting that many supers?

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How long did it take from placing the nucs to getting that many supers?

Put nucs out in to 10 frame boxes mid November and was putting the last super on end of January. All filled by the time I took supers off in March for extraction.

I undersupered at the 3rd box position for this hive and no queen excluder

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Think I'm going to have to get out into the paddock this weekend and have a look at

 

Put nucs out in to 10 frame boxes mid November and was putting the last super on end of January. All filled by the time I took supers off in March for extraction.

I undersupered at the 3rd box position for this hive and no queen excluder

 

I think I'm going to need some more supers

 

Our hives are going out into 150 h of pasture with Clover, Lucerne, Chicory and about 5 h of native wetland regeneration in mid November.

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think I'm going to need some more supers

 

You always need more supers... It's just what happens if you have strong, healthy hives in a good patch of tucker!

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You always need more supers... It's just what happens if you have strong, healthy hives in a good patch of tucker!

Never a truer word spoken. Never enough gear. I am my own worst enemy.

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Think I'm going to have to get out into the paddock this weekend and have a look at

 

 

I think I'm going to need some more supers

 

Our hives are going out into 150 h of pasture with Clover, Lucerne, Chicory and about 5 h of native wetland regeneration in mid November.

Work on 5 full depth supers per colony for the season. Some are more some are less, so 100 colonies need 500 boxes, 5000 frames and so on. Then extra gear for splits, queen rearing etc.

A good clover flow is fun, a strong colony can draw out a full depth box of bare frames, fill and cap in a week.

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Work on 5 full depth supers per colony for the season. Some are more some are less, so 100 colonies need 500 boxes, 5000 frames and so on. Then extra gear for splits, queen rearing etc.

A good clover flow is fun, a strong colony can draw out a full depth box of bare frames, fill and cap in a week.

It's very obvious you haven't kept bees around here !

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It's very obvious you haven't kept bees around here !

Need more boxes down there?

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Need more boxes down there?

Ho ho ho

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Five boxes .... got any spare sites up there ....!!

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Five boxes .... got any spare sites up there ....!!

And here i was thinking 5 Fd for a hive was the norm☺

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Five boxes .... got any spare sites up there ....!!

Na mate, It a bit tight up here.

 

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Ah, your taking the p### again . Painting boxes !

They gathering that high value pine honey ?

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Ah, your taking the p### again . Painting boxes !

They gathering that high value pine honey ?

LOL

Na mate, There's 100kg of clover in there, and a free ranging Queen.

There was one the same on Rewa and a few others on clover.

That instrument in my right hand is a Knife and I've just carved an entrance in the top box

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Really digging your colour palette M4tt

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Heck ... it must be still raining up there. Everyones painting boxes.

There's something to be said for free ranging queens.

Question : what happens when you take the honey off ... how do you look after the queen ?

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Really digging your colour palette M4tt

That pic is a few years old now, but is a goody since we are bragging about our clover .

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Heck ... it must be still raining up there. Everyones painting boxes.

There's something to be said for free ranging queens.

Question : what happens when you take the honey off ... how do you look after the queen ?

She gets blown onto the ground with the rest of them.

If shes doesn't survive then the hive makes a new one.

Chances are she will survive.

A Queen is one tuff Bee, probably the toughest in the hive.

get one and toss it 2m from the hive and watch her crawl home.

I did find one on the deck of my trailer at the honey house once.

I put her in a match box and made a Nuc with her later that day

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Ouch ... not sure I brave enough to blow her out on the ground. But then .... why not ? All the other bees climb back inside.

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Ouch ... not sure I brave enough to blow her out on the ground. But then .... why not ? All the other bees climb back inside.

Im not precious with them at all.

She is a physically superior Bee

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Ho ho ho

Ah, thats right we are further North than you so have more daylight hours = longer foraging hours;)

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Does anyone have experience with their bees being exposed to the pyrethroid insecticide Karate Zeon (Cyhalothrin) via the crops they were pollinating?

 

The clover crop I'm pollinating will have this insecticide applied once during flowering. Although the farmer uses the spray at night and claims it is "perfectly safe" for bees, I am far less convinced. It only took me 5-10mins of research on this chemical in regards to toxicity to honey bees and I pulled up a field trial that was rather concerning. For example, problems with hive health during over wintering was one issue raised. So it's not the acute toxicity I'm concerned with, but the sub-lethal effects that may not immediately show up or go under the radar until other stress comes into play.

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Personally I would be very wary of any insecticide and any claims that it's safe for bees. Like you I did some research into lambda-cyhalothrin which is the active indigent of Karate Zeon and found a fact sheet that states:

When applied during non-foraging periods such as early morning or evening, application will not interfere with the activity of honey bees once the spray has dried, other than causing a short 2-3 day reduced foraging effect.

TOXIC TO BEES.

Spray must not contact plants in flower if they are likely to be visited by bees.

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