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Japanese Cedar (Cryptomeria)

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Hi Dan looks nice, are you putting the sap wood on the top edge or bottom edge?

To be honest I don't think it really matters it has either a box sitting on top or it is sitting on a base. And believe it or no when running it through the Thicknesser the boards with high sapwood content were actually harder to machine as the sap wood is so hard, harder than the heartwood.

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Gidday Dan,

 

Hey is there any chance when you make your next lot of boxes,you could take a pic of the inside?

Im curious to know how the frames sit in and also how each one locates on to the box below as they are stacked?

Thanks,from a newbie.

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@Phil46

Let me know if you need more detail-

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@Phil46

Let me know if you need more detail-

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8 frames per box?

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8 frames per box?

Looks that way..... Didn't even have to use my fingers to count them

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8 frames per box?

Yep. I made the frames for someone who run 8 frames in their honey supers which are 3/4 depth

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Nice dansar

we use a lot of crypto for our boxes . Its great to mill and amazing to work with. We will be stocking crypto and poplar very soon in bee box dimensions. Another one is cedar deodara. heavy but very stable. The figure in the grain is worth the effort alone with the mill etc. Bees love the stuff. I know that any timber is alright for the bees as soon as we open up a log and bees from our resident hives wander over to have a look see and a lick or two. the poplar lags are almost like a honey flow but its propolis they seem to be after.

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Yeah Himalayan Cedar is very fragrant, the nicest smelling of the cedars I reckon.

http://www.nzbees.net/attachments/image-jpg.11847/

I planted some 20 years ago. Beautiful shade trees. They must have to be quite old to mill, they are about the size of a 5 year old pine

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thanks for that Dan.With regards to stacking,I take it they just sit on top of each other without any sort of locators?

Are you still looking at doing box build demo for BOP beeks,or has that already happened?

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thanks for that Dan.With regards to stacking,I take it they just sit on top of each other without any sort of locators?

Are you still looking at doing box build demo for BOP beeks,or has that already happened?

Yeah boxes just sit on top of each other. There is a space under the bottom of the frames to the top of the frame below so Bees dont get squished.

If I get asked to I will do a demo.

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those boxes look real neat natural!

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hey dan,first up do u sell ur boxes? If so could I buy a 4 box setup like the picture above?

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hey dan,first up do u sell ur boxes? If so could I buy a 4 box setup like the picture above?

Send him a conversation. Click on his avatar then Start a conversation @dansar

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ah yes ,I have enough posts now to do this,thanks.

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Just picked up a load of Japanese Cedar to turn in to beehive boxes. Japanese Cedar is also known as Cryptomeria, a tree commonly used as a shelter belt.

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Hi Do you have a contact to get more of this timber? I have a local bee keeper that wants to try some boxes.

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Hi Do you have a contact to get more of this timber? I have a local bee keeper that wants to try some boxes.

Yes, me. I had it contract milled. What does he need? I will see what's left.

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Yes, me. I had it contract milled. What does he need? I will see what's left.

 

looking for enough to make 400 full depth boxes

On that note: Why do you use Cryptomeria as it seems to be a very light coarse grain wood that would rot out easily?

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looking for enough to make 400 full depth boxes

On that note: Why do you use Cryptomeria as it seems to be a very light coarse grain wood that would rot out easily?

Most of the cedar family are light, stiff, and are often quite durable out of ground contact.

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looking for enough to make 400 full depth boxes

On that note: Why do you use Cryptomeria as it seems to be a very light coarse grain wood that would rot out easily?

Yes it is light weight a bit lighter than Redwood. It is used in exterior cladding or outdoor applications. It is like all the cedar family; classed as moderately durable. Heartwood is very durable as is the sapwood above ground. I always recommend painting it as the sun and rain make it split a lot more readily.

I will see what I have in 250x, some of it is in 50mm so would need to be resawn to 25mm.

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I had another 550 meters of Japanese Cedar machined yesterday.Collected this afternoon and now all stacked and ready to turn in to hive boxes.

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It comes up looking really nice in Full Depth boxes.

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Got any 300mm wide boards?

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