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Satellite GPS Anti Theft Tracker

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Hello All

I have been working for some time now on being able to provide a GPS tracker that works off Satellite. There is a lot involved in this and I would like to get feedback now on what I have to offer to see if there is a market for this type of setup. I hear and see so often beekeepers wanting a solution to this issue and in my research there is nothing available specific for beehives on the market as yet. There are option of Cameras etc but like anything there is positive and negatives with using these.

So what I can offer:

-GPS unit that has geo-fencing

-Emails once every week one update of its location.

-If moved it activates and sends a message by email, and will continue to do this every 10-15 minutes while be moved. This giving you a trail line of where its going.

-Battery life of 3+ years, rechargeable.

-Option of adding texting updates.

 

Unit Pricing does depend on qty.

0-20 $355.00+

20+ $339.00+

60+ $309+

 

Monthly data cost also varies depending on the amount you have.

But starts off at $15.00+GST per month per unit, for under 20 units. Plus 0.50 per message it sends.

its gets cheaper as you get over different qty amounts. Please note you can use these for a range of things not only hives, tracking of your equipment, trailers, trucks etc to track them with workers or if parked up and they are stolen.

 

In my research I found cost to run these units is all based on: qty of units you have, and the amount of data you use. Also you cannot just buy a GPS unit from anyone, because satellite data is proved through limited suppliers for NZ, and unless you are set up with them then your device will not work. Or if its a one of unit then it will cost a lot to run.

 

 

Positive feedback only please..

Thank you.

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What's geo -fencing ?

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With a battery life of 3 years, does that mean it will only start tracking when outside of the geo-fence?

Or will it require a solar panel to maintain the battery level?

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With a battery life of 3 years, does that mean it will only start tracking when outside of the geo-fence?

Or will it require a solar panel to maintain the battery level?

No the battery lasts that long. don't need any other power. it will tell you if it goes outside the Geo fence, but also will tell you if moved so its easy to see if its moved just on site, or gone off site.

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Jeremy is the unit "bee-proof"? Weather-proof? Can it be tampered with/opened? thanks

Bee Proof? not sure what you are asking on this, but there is no way a bee can get into it, and its been used in other countries for bee theft issues before, yes weather proof. Yes it designed to be opened as his to for battery replacement, but it is screwed together, and has screw lugs on it for fitting to wood etc, so can't be removed without undoing these.

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How much will the replacement batteries cost? And do you have a data sheet that we can look at?

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How much will the replacement batteries cost? And do you have a data sheet that we can look at?

The batteries are AAA, the unit is supplied with rechargeable ones.

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How big is the unit.

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The problem as i see it is how to stash the unit so that it remains hidden if your hives get stolen

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I reckon I could conceal one of those fairly easily in a feeder rim. @jeremy thomas are there any restrictions on how the unit should be oriented for best reception?

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One problem is the unit price is pretty high. If you have only 100 hives it is a $30000 + investment and each month it is going to cost you $1500 + for the data plan.

If the units cost $30 and the only cost was per message it would be cost effective.

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I reckon I could conceal one of those fairly easily in a feeder rim. @jeremy thomas are there any restrictions on how the unit should be oriented for best reception?

Yes it needs to see light, but as for ways it can be fitted I prefer to talk to people direct on this, as I have put a lot into this and for anyone to understand this I really need to talk to them rather than put on here.

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One problem is the unit price is pretty high. If you have only 100 hives it is a $30000 + investment and each month it is going to cost you $1500 + for the data plan.

If the units cost $30 and the only cost was per message it would be cost effective.

Pricing does decrease on qty, and its not normal to do every hive on a site, What is suggested is 3-5 units per 30 hives. what you need to realise is you wont find any company who will offer satellite connection for no cost. every provider i went to said there is no such thing as having this at no cost and only paying for data. There is far more to this than most can appreciate. Basically for those who think this is to expensive then satellite is not an option for them, only GSM.

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Jeremy with good cell phone coverage in NZ it is a more cost effective system. We are using a combined satellite GSM unit on our aircraft and vehicles. GSM coverage is good and the extra cost of satellite is hard to justify.

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Jeremy with good cell phone coverage in NZ it is a more cost effective system. We are using a combined satellite GSM unit on our aircraft and vehicles. GSM coverage is good and the extra cost of satellite is hard to justify.

I already offer a GSM option, but with beekeepers I have spoken to I would say 80% of them tell me cell phone GPS is not good for this type of application, and Satellite is the only option. So it seems like it all up to the individual on what they think works. One issue with GSM is if a hive is stolen where there is reception then taken to where there is no reception then you only have half the answer to where its gone, and the chancers of finding it are not high, where Satellite will track where ever the hive goes.

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I already offer a GSM option, but with beekeepers I have spoken to I would say 80% of them tell me cell phone GPS is not good for this type of application, and Satellite is the only option. So it seems like it all up to the individual on what they think works. One issue with GSM is if a hive is stolen where there is reception then taken to where there is no reception then you only have half the answer to where its gone, and the chancers of finding it are not high, where Satellite will track where ever the hive goes.

Jeremy, Yes I agree if shifted from a non GSM location to another non GSM location, no tracking notification or information is a possibility. However the cost of satellite coverage is expensive if the hives are located in a cell phone coverage area.

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Jeremy, Yes I agree if shifted from a non GSM location to another non GSM location, no tracking notification or information is a possibility. However the cost of satellite coverage is expensive if the hives are located in a cell phone coverage area.

I think you got it right the first time @WJFunnell , satellite tracking is expensive, full stop.

 

@jeremy thomas the key is not to compare the cost of tracking against the cost of the hives being protected. You need to compare the cost of tracking against the probable loss by theft to the business. Given that commercial beekeepers have the means to replace lost colonies and that there is a chance they won't lose any hives, self insuring may be a far cheaper option than even GSM tracking.

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What are you going to do when you find they have been moved though? Doubt the police will do anything, they would call it a civil matter.

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What are you going to do when you find they have been moved though? Doubt the police will do anything, they would call it a civil matter.

It's stolen property! However the health and safety for the cops to go in and retrieve it must be massive!

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What are you going to do when you find they have been moved though? Doubt the police will do anything, they would call it a civil matter.

If I was a commercial beek and I had a ton of money tied up in hives and they were being moved/stolen...I wouldn't be waiting around for the police to come and sort!!

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If I was a commercial beek and I had a ton of money tied up in hives and they were being moved/stolen...I wouldn't be waiting around for the police to come and sort!!

And risk charges/injury yourself?

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