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you sure it's Manuka ..... ?  😴

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7 hours ago, M4tt said:

Manuka flowering profusely near Princetown , Victoria , Australia . I’ve seen no beehives around at all 

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Did you see or hear any bees in the flowering leptospermum plants .

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7 hours ago, M4tt said:

Manuka flowering profusely near Princetown , Victoria , Australia . I’ve seen no beehives around at all 

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Thing is, its not really "manuka" . 🙂

 

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If it's L.ericoides what else is it ?

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30 minutes ago, yesbut said:

If it's L.ericoides what else is it ?

When I was in Vic at this time of yr I saw this plant everywhere  , or one very similar ,flowering and full of bees .

I thought it was jelly bush .

My sister has it in her NZ garden .

I think the flowers are bigger than manuka flowers .

 

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It’s raining straight off the southern ocean and cool, so bees aren’t working anyway . Plenty of bird life though . 
It looks like Manuka to me . I can’t see any difference from the plants at home .

 

Top pic is from Oz. Bottom pic from home 

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1 hour ago, yesbut said:

If it's L.ericoides what else is it ?

Duuhhh I meant L.Scoparium

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We had 4 mm in about four minutes yesterday and that was it. It came through  with of the strongest wind squalls I have seen in years. It's getting pretty dry around here.

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3 minutes ago, john berry said:

We had 4 mm in about four minutes yesterday and that was it. It came through  with of the strongest wind squalls I have seen in years. It's getting pretty dry around here.

Do you need systems from the pacific to bring you rain .

We have had very few of these this yr .

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4 minutes ago, john berry said:

We had 4 mm in about four minutes yesterday and that was it. It came through  with of the strongest wind squalls I have seen in years. It's getting pretty dry around here.

Still raining here. How about swapping weather patterns

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Yikes!

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10 minutes ago, Goran said:

Yikes!

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What has eaten that?

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1 minute ago, Bighands said:

What has eaten that?

 

Marten or its cousins.. Most likely marten.. That little nervy devil..

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2 hours ago, yesbut said:

Duuhhh I meant L.Scoparium

Galloping old age again huh pink cat

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3 hours ago, M4tt said:

It’s raining straight off the southern ocean and cool, so bees aren’t working anyway . Plenty of bird life though . 
It looks like Manuka to me . I can’t see any difference from the plants at home .

 

Top pic is from Oz. Bottom pic from home 

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If you look closely, you'll see a very subtle difference.  The bottom flower is more delicate and refined .....😬

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1 hour ago, Goran said:

 

Marten or its cousins.. Most likely marten.. That little nervy devil..

Arent they meat eating mustelids ?

13 minutes ago, jamesc said:

If you look closely, you'll see a very subtle difference.  The bottom flower is more delicate and refined .....😬

Of course the kiwi version would be more delicate and refined . 😊

 

 

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, jamesc said:

If you look closely, you'll see a very subtle difference.  The bottom flower is more delicate and refined .....😬

The stamen, the thing in the middle is a different colour.  In the top pic the anthers and filaments seem to be in clusters of three, whereas the bottom are in a circle.

Is the bottom photo kanuka?

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46 minutes ago, Maggie James said:

The stamen, the thing in the middle is a different colour.  In the top pic the anthers and filaments seem to be in clusters of three, whereas the bottom are in a circle.

Is the bottom photo kanuka?

The bottom pic is Manuka off the Rukuhia peat . Our Kanuka is quite different to that 

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7 hours ago, yesbut said:

Duuhhh I meant L.Scoparium

it's a Kunzea when that happens

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5 hours ago, kaihoka said:

Arent they meat eating mustelids ?

Of course the kiwi version would be more delicate and refined . 😊

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bees are meat. Martens are known to attack hives in winter.

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1 hour ago, Goran said:

Bees are meat. Martens are known to attack hives in winter.

was that hive a total lost then? or were you able to rescue some? I presume by now they are clustered and fairly easy pickings for the Marten.

I enjoy your posts @Goran- it gives us a look at  issues we would never think of. 

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There is left cluster on 4 seams. I think it was somewhat decent temp and bees managed to defend themselves with some losses. Now they are tightly clustered and hive is very heavy, I hope they will manage to survive. I just replace the bb, didn't went into frames cause it is around zero celsius these last few days, only one odd bee released from cluster. I will have to check this apiary more frequently.. 

 

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crap. Turns out the boxes of frames (several hundred) i have stored out of sight vaguely in mind are all full depth. And all the boxes i made up are 3/4 depth. So I put in an order for a few frames with a major supplier. Couple of working days later got an email stating that the gear was packed for consignment and about to be picked up. A couple more days later i got a phone call saying, yeah, about that, we're out of stock. Suspected that an important customer turned up and scooped the kit, but deal is that their boiler failed so they couldn't coat frames for a while. Bit annoying, getting the money refunded and going elsewhere this time. Doesn't matter who it is (we've all made mistakes/had stuff happen), does act as a reminder to call about orders if you care about them turning up within a week or two. I've got some kitset full-depth boxes i think, so looks like i'll be dealing with a little bit of extra weight in a handful of boxes this summer...

 

main note to self though - check kit rather than assume i know what i have on hand, and get organised earlier rather than later!!!

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Martin's are related to honey Badgers and skunks both of which can destroy hives. Not sure about stoats weasels and ferrets, I have never seen any damage from these but they all eat insects to some extent and I'm sure they would take drones given the chance.

 

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On 4/12/2019 at 12:00 AM, kaihoka said:

Is there still money in non active pure  manuka honey

Dunno, I'm my area we get a minimum of 5+ but usually 6-9+ 

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