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November 2019 Apiary Diary

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I am far more tired after a week of socialising than I am after a week of solitary physical labour .

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2 hours ago, Gino de Graaf said:

Men more likely kill themselves. Especially farmers, like us. Cause they don't express themselves due to the perception of being weak. Woman may have more mental issues probably cause they acknowledge it. 

 

Women make 3 times as many suicide attempts as men. More men actually succeed that's all.

 

Re the red wine thing, it was an unintentional fraud perpetuated by the alcohol industry, here's what happened.

 

A very large study of peoples eating habits and longevity was done, involving thousands of people. The data showed that people who drank a modest amount of red wine daily, lived longer than those who did not. Naturally the wine industry seized on this and promoted it as much as they could, to such an extent that it became a common belief that if you drink red wine you will live longer.

 

Years later, a researcher who didn't quite think it all added up, took another look at the same data, from the same study. He looked at the rest of the data, not just wine consumption in isolation. He found that people who drank a modest amount of red wine daily, also tended to eat better and were higher than average income. So he then "normalised" these other factors by comparing modest red wine drinkers against non red wine drinkers, but in the same income and food habit groups. The picture then changed, if the other factors were equal, the modest red wine drinkers actually lived shorter, than the non red wine drinkers.

 

The big takeaway from this, to me anyway, is be careful of statistics. Understand how they are presented, and if they are cherry picked, intentionally or not.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gino de Graaf said:

 

Thanks for asking! 

I use this forum share my thoughts. I am a one up team and most decisions I need to make. Sometimes I feel like an island as I am quite disconnected. Most folks have loads of social interaction in a day. I miss that, nothing beats working in a great team. Though I love being my own boss and working to my own beat. 

I also know that you can get over too much social time. 

There, Man week.

Nice.. yea I’m feelin ya brother.. 

this season ive stepped in with both feet and now mostly only have myself to worry about which is pretty good feeling.. just me, my girls and the bellbirds singin to me.. the forum fills the gap a bit  of 15 workmates to chew the fat with.. 

 

so.. when ya finish your shift missions feel free to bang that nice wee truck on the ferry and I’ll put it to use punching mine up into spot X... 😬

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4 hours ago, Stoney said:

Nice.. yea I’m feelin ya brother.. 

this season ive stepped in with both feet and now mostly only have myself to worry about which is pretty good feeling.. just me, my girls and the bellbirds singin to me.. the forum fills the gap a bit  of 15 workmates to chew the fat with.. 

 

so.. when ya finish your shift missions feel free to bang that nice wee truck on the ferry and I’ll put it to use punching mine up into spot X... 😬

So you not working with J? Out on your own. Feels a lot better slogging yourself for yourself. 

My wee truck doesn't get used enough.

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A couple of nice little swarms today......from the yard that's been 2-queened of course.

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1 hour ago, yesbut said:

A couple of nice little swarms today......from the yard that's been 2-queened of course.


kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it !

hope you got the new queen and not the old girl 

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Just now, frazzledfozzle said:


kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it !

hope you got the new queen and not the old girl 

I think I've got both !

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8 minutes ago, yesbut said:

I think I've got both !

Back in business 😉.

 

Seems a little late , like by about 6 weeks ? 

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4 minutes ago, M4tt said:

Back in business 😉.

 

Seems a little late , like by about 6 weeks ? 

Yes. First one last year 8 Oct.  Kanuka's going to be a week earlier than last year.

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Man week ..... I usually de brief with my mate Doctor Speight .  He's a patient listener and by the time we are done the stress of the day is gone .

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Been a busy day ..... last minute sorting of access tracks .

This year all landowners are getting a disclaimer ..... "That they are in no way liable for any misfortune that may befall us as we place bees on their land . We undertake everything at our own risk" ..... and if we want to wear japanese riding boots, so be it.

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1 hour ago, yesbut said:

I think I've got both !

Are they carnolians ?

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Just now, kaihoka said:

Are they carnolians ?

Don't generally look like it, although I have noticed a few black bodies which I've not seen around here before.

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7 hours ago, Gino de Graaf said:

So you not working with J? Out on your own. Feels a lot better slogging yourself for yourself. 

My wee truck doesn't get used enough.

Well I contract beekeep for him when I can but have been fairly tapped out keeping my head above water.. 

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13 hours ago, Alastair said:

The big takeaway from this, to me anyway, is be careful of statistics.

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1 hour ago, Stoney said:

Well I contract beekeep for him when I can but have been fairly tapped out keeping my head above water.. 

What's your target crop? Ka/Manuka,? 

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41 minutes ago, Gino de Graaf said:

What's your target crop? Ka/Manuka,? 

Yea If the stars align . 

 

We had a tornado at home this arvo, tore part of the neighbours roof off, plenty of damage around, I’ve spent the afternoon hanging off my nasty 066 cutting the farm driveway clear of several uprooted old  oak trees.. then  onto the pine trees cutting them clear of the fences.. oat crops shredded, fruit trees stripped, glass house possibly went out to sea.. 

once the driveway was clear I checked the nucs.. it was weird.. some sat upright and fine others were upside down and several have simply vanished. 

Managed to recover a few frames out in the next paddock. 

 

Nature gives with one hand and takes with the other .. 

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13 hours ago, jamesc said:

Man week ..... I usually de brief with my mate Doctor Speight .  He's a patient listener and by the time we are done the stress of the day is gone .

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Been a busy day ..... last minute sorting of access tracks .

This year all landowners are getting a disclaimer ..... "That they are in no way liable for any misfortune that may befall us as we place bees on their land . We undertake everything at our own risk" ..... and if we want to wear japanese riding boots, so be it.

Can I get a copy of that disclaimer? 

Liability insurance is a rip off 

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so seems as though one of the secret donors to the NZ First foundation has ties with manuka honey interests, unsurprising when you stop and think about it I guess given some of the noise that has now seemed to have gone quiet coming from some political quarters a while back.

copied from the stuff article: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/117577119/who-are-the-donors-behind-the-nz-first-foundation

" One investor, who Stuff has decided not to name, has connections with the mānuka honey industry, and has spoken out about the need to protect the brand's copyright.  "

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Hmmm. So a little bribery and corruption has motivated Shane Jones to stand up for the brand 😁

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Maru .... we also have a 5mil$  public liability insurance . Most corporate landowners now demand we sign our lives away before granting us access to their land.

Our  disclaimer  is a signed reassurance to the landowner that if we stuff up .... it was our stuff up  .... we never checked that  the quality of their bridge build was up to our standard .... and just recovers any base that has been forgotten.

 

I'll get the office lady to send you a copy.

 

 

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20 hours ago, kaihoka said:

Are they carnolians ?

I've had a better look at them transfering them  framed to a hive...yes I have to say I do seem to have a pair of Carnie type colonies now, most of them are very dark.  I don't know if I'm in favour of it or not. Bit of a change from Frazz style yellow as butter critters. Haven't seen the Qs yet.

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15 minutes ago, yesbut said:

I've had a better look at them transfering them  framed to a hive...yes I have to say I do seem to have a pair of Carnie type colonies now, most of them are very dark.  I don't know if I'm in favour of it or not. Bit of a change from Frazz style yellow as butter critters. Haven't seen the Qs yet.

there is nothing favorable about dark bees.

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7 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

there is nothing favorable about dark bees.

Now why do you say that? Have you ever seen a pure Carniolan or AMM hive.I am not talking mongrels.I  worked pure Carniolans in Canada,great to work with,as quiet as Italians and not bed to eat sugar. I am close to getting pure Amm's here but need to get the wings checked to make sure.

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Carnis in their pure form do have their good points. But the issue i have with them is their swarmyness. May be less of a deal in the South Island, but a major problem where i am.

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Is anyone selling Carni queens since Daykel sold @David Yanke?

 

I don’t want any , just curious . 

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