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two summers ago it was really hot and wet and we had a lot of australian butterflies in the area, i thought then that it was the right conditions to blow spores across the tasman.

last summer was hot and very dry , the right conditions for the rust to thrive.

but no sign yet , i and my friends in DOC are cautiously optimistic that myrtle rust will not establish easily in the west coast.

wind and rain and all that nasty weather.

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@jamesc @Stoney i checked the rata again today and the buds are all flower buds.

it is two weeks later than two yrs ago when a big flowering was showing.

i think there will be at least and 80% flower cover up here this yr.

i do not know if the same will happen further south.

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Can not see much happening here yet.Barrytown pohutukawas are a mixed bag which the sign that I use.The S.Rata I keep my eye on the Coast Road are all showing leaf bud.If it does flower it will not be as early as the last flowering normal early February onwards. I have seen it flower really well at Paringa but not in Otira, so every area is different.

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2 minutes ago, Bighands said:

I have seen it flower really well at Paringa but not in Otira, so

I'm surprised you can ever see anything more than rain in Otira !

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Correct pink cat and I do not need glasses

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33 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

@jamesc @Stoney i checked the rata again today and the buds are all flower buds.

it is two weeks later than two yrs ago when a big flowering was showing.

i think there will be at least and 80% flower cover up here this yr.

i do not know if the same will happen further south.

Sweet

game on. Eh!

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Do not count your chickens James.The Quintinia is not out yet.It is in bud but not flowering.I will be surprised if we get a Rata flow this next year. I am talking about Otira.

 

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14 minutes ago, Bighands said:

Do not count your chickens James.The Quintinia is not out yet.It is in bud but not flowering.I will be surprised if we get a Rata flow this next year. I am talking about Otira.

 

could it be just be late, the rata is definitely later here than the last big flower.

i think we have mostly northern rata here. i have been looking at the leaves now i have been taught the difference.

kamahi in big flower here now and quintinia  just finishing.

everything is later.

pohutukawa flowering here seems unrelated to rata flowering.

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17 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Sweet

game on. Eh!

So you will join the throng of beekeepers coming to the valley for the S.Rata.I heard from some locals that the kids could not play outside due to so many bees in the area.It was dry and all the bees were hanging round the taps,so I gather.

5 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

could it be just be late, the rata is definitely later here than the last big flower.

i think we have mostly northern rata here. i have been looking at the leaves now i have been taught the difference.

kamahi in big flower here now and quintinia  just finishing.

everything is later.

pohutukawa flowering here seems unrelated to rata flowering.

The last large flowering here in Otira was the earliest I have ever seen it.

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33 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

i have been looking at the leaves now i have been taught the difference.

You mean the wee notch ?

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29 minutes ago, Bighands said:

So you will join the throng of beekeepers coming to the valley for the S.Rata.I heard from some locals that the kids could not play outside due to so many bees in the area.It was dry and all the bees were hanging round the taps,so I gather.

The last large flowering here in Otira was the earliest I have ever seen it.

We'll see  .... no point in producing something there is no market for .... eh .

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1 minute ago, jamesc said:

We'll see  .... no point in producing something there is no market for .... eh .

I thought you were all happy now. 

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48 minutes ago, yesbut said:

I thought you were all happy now. 

I am .... rata does’nt seem to be on peoples shopping list... so why go to the expense of chasing it?

I'll answer that question .....

Because it's a blast ! 

As you fire up those 500 horses and hit the hills with the turbo whinning with a load of a hundred million little critters on the back , and Jake the Brake growling down the other side .....

As you feel the adrenalin rise when you engage the diff lockers for the lumpy bumpy ride across the rushing torrent in the early dawn, and wind the strops in the quiet of the bush ..... you 'aint really thinking about the dollar bills you've won or lost  .....

You is living in the moment.

You is living the dream .... 

 

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2 hours ago, yesbut said:

You mean the wee notch ?

Yes .

Most leaves seem notched .

But I am always looking through binoculars.

Theres not a lot of foliage near the ground .

 

2 hours ago, jamesc said:

We'll see  .... no point in producing something there is no market for .... eh .

Did you read my post about a friend selling rata to china .?

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4 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

Yes .

Most leaves seem notched .

But I am always looking through binoculars.

Theres not a lot of foliage near the ground .

 

Did you read my post about a friend selling rata to china .?

China's a really good place to send rata honey...far far away....

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One of the only honey's you can harvest uncapped.One year I left a couple of frames on the hive as they werte not capped came back two days later and the honey was crystalized. What do you do then,impossible to extract and I have had bees die due to not being able to use the honey I left for them.

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21 minutes ago, Bighands said:

One of the only honey's you can harvest uncapped.One year I left a couple of frames on the hive as they werte not capped came back two days later and the honey was crystalized. What do you do then,impossible to extract and I have had bees die due to not being able to use the honey I left for them.

I think the rata I get here is always a blend .

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The Rata I get is sometimes 95% + by pollen count depending on the timing

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27 minutes ago, Bighands said:

One of the only honey's you can harvest uncapped.One year I left a couple of frames on the hive as they werte not capped came back two days later and the honey was crystalized. What do you do then,impossible to extract and I have had bees die due to not being able to use the honey I left for them.

Indeed,   a few years ago we bought 400 hives that had come from the coast with a box of Rata winter feed. OMG .... those babies were hard work. The feed honey was rock solid and the spring bees would'nt work it.  

It'sa wonder they survived til the flow , save for the sweet nectar of syrup.

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Just now, jamesc said:

Indeed,   a few years ago we bought 400 hives that had come from the coast with a box of Rata winter feed. OMG .... those babies were hard work. The feed honey was rock solid and the spring bees would'nt work it.  

It'sa wonder they survived til the flow , save for the sweet nectar of syrup.

James dip the frames in water, which makes it easier for the bees to work.

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3 minutes ago, Bighands said:

The Rata I get is sometimes 95% + by pollen count depending on the timing

I do not think I could ever get that high .

It stays soft and semi liquid.

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