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Hi there

Will bees clean up or too much pollen and mold? Covers 3/4 of frame. I'm thinking a redo. 

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I’d chuck it out 👍.

A strong hive will clean it up , but they’ll drop it all on the floor . They’d be better spending their energy drawing a fresh frame .

That stuff goes well buried in the vege garden 

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Thanks, will do. Compost it is.

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1 hour ago, Diane said:

Thanks, will do. Compost it is.

Any frames with pollen in them go in the freezer over winter .

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2 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

Any frames with pollen in them go in the freezer over winter .

I don't have a large enough freezer to hold 50 plus boxes.

 

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I grade frames like that harder than I would clean frames but if it was reasonably new and in good condition other than the mould I would give it to a strong hive to clean up.Cleaning up old gear is hard work and bees like hard work more than I do.

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Just now, Trevor Gillbanks said:

I don't have a large enough freezer to hold 50 plus boxes.

 

So what do you do with frames of pollen at the end of winter .

Do you ever have surplus ones .

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1 minute ago, kaihoka said:

So what do you do with frames of pollen at the end of winter .

Do you ever have surplus ones .

Yes. Of course I have surplus pollen frames.

Like @john berry I grade my frames very carefully.  

Frames that have pollen (ex brood frames) are susceptible to wax moth.  These frames I store in standard boxes but only 6 frames per box (equally spaced).  This stops the wax moth generating their own heat.

Over winter I will recheck these frames at least twice and I reject the heavily moulded ones and I clean them up.  Slight moulding goes back to the bees for clean up during the spring build up.

 

It is a lot of work but I think the results are worth it.

 

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I have stored pollen in a box from a dead out in the autumn and it has not gone mouldy, mind you it was in the super along with honey and not stored in thefreezer.

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I was wondering if the mould was due to putting the boxes in the freezer for 24 to 48 hours before storing for the winter. I guess when I do that any pollen or old brood would be damp from the freezing and go mouldy. The garage is dry.  Mould is better than wax moth. 

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18 minutes ago, Diane said:

I was wondering if the mould was due to putting the boxes in the freezer for 24 to 48 hours before storing for the winter. I guess when I do that any pollen or old brood would be damp from the freezing and go mouldy. The garage is dry.  Mould is better than wax moth. 

If I freeze frames for wax moth I clean them up with the hose then put in a warm spot to dry completely before storage .

Sometimes during freezing pollen will shrink and can be hosed out .

Wax is very brittle when frozen , make sure it is thawed Before applying the hose .

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1 hour ago, Diane said:

I was wondering if the mould was due to putting the boxes in the freezer for 24 to 48 hours before storing for the winter. I guess when I do that any pollen or old brood would be damp from the freezing and go mouldy. The garage is dry.  Mould is better than wax moth. 

Once the bees aren’t looking after pollen , all kinds of things  set about breaking it down and recycling it . Mould , wax  moth , pollen mites to name a few . That’s nature at work 

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