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October 2019 Apiary Diary

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26 minutes ago, Stoney said:

Last season down here spring mating for me was fickle at best, this season despite plenty of cold wet days has been much better all while treated with staples, personally I’ve not seen any issues with mating while treatments are in. 

Good to hear that Stoney.

Ive decided that this is an issue that deserves inclusion in the Efficacy trial as it is important that Beeks in the future are able to have a ready answer.

Ill speak with the powers that be and hope to produce some cells from currently treated  Hives and put them in treated mating Nucs stocked from trial hives.

Its not something I have done in the past because I did have a terrible result once with Formic Acid and cells which colored my thinking from then on.

Also as a Queen Breeder I was always risk adverse in this regard.

However Im sure that within 3 months we will have some conclusive data
 

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Crimson clover seed is planted 

 

Now wait and see 

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3 hours ago, Maggie James said:

 

James - Are the polys full?  When do you make the polys up and put the cells out?  Do they stay on those hives or do you bring them back to a poly yard?

That's a yes vote from me

Yes .... these polys are full. Made earlier in the week with a baked bean can of bees an cell due on 24/10

unblocked at 6 this morning in anticipation of next weeks warmth

The cells were the first graft of the season

The polys had ice on the lids this morning☺️

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1 hour ago, Stoney said:

Last season down here spring mating for me was fickle at best, this season despite plenty of cold wet days has been much better all while treated with staples, personally I’ve not seen any issues with mating while treatments are in. 

Maybe an autumn issue, and super cedure

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Glycerine is considered to be hydroscopic, so if there is moisture, it will be absorbed by any glycerine present.

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2 hours ago, Sailabee said:

Glycerine is considered to be hydroscopic, so if there is moisture, it will be absorbed by any glycerine present.

Ive done some weighing of soaked gibs after removal from the hives

What is significant is that the ones that have remained within the Brood cluster are very consistent and in equilibrium with the Brood nest environment.

The ones that have been left uncovered by the Bees and exposed to ambient moisture/ temp are totally different, often completely washed out.
 

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On 24/10/2019 at 7:49 PM, Maggie James said:

Where the heck is whakapirau anyway?!

 

About 12km southwest of Maungaturoto.

On 24/10/2019 at 8:07 PM, yesbut said:

Where the heck is Whangerai anyway ?

 

North of Maungaturoto. Roughly as far as to Auckland.

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Hawthorn & Barberry doing the flowering thing right on time.Bees.thumb.jpg.c3a0fa2e862839430afdd26ca439692f.jpg 

My better hive just emptied itself and disappeared for a while then whirled back home & crammed inside again.

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I don't see no shop cloths stuffed in the entrance .....😯

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1 minute ago, jamesc said:

I don't see no shop cloths stuffed in the entrance .....😯

I've gone off those. I was hoping they would swarm,  I want to  put a hive under the avocado....my commercial neighbour's hives aren't building up much at all, I've given up hope of  swarms off them this year.

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Why were you hoping that they would swarm?

3 minutes ago, yesbut said:

I was hoping they would swarm

 

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10 minutes ago, yesbut said:

I've gone off those. I was hoping they would swarm,  I want to  put a hive under the avocado....my commercial neighbour's hives aren't building up much at all, I've given up hope of  swarms off them this year.

Using staples is he .....?

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56 minutes ago, Maggie James said:

Why were you hoping that they would swarm?

 

So I could move them 100 metres to my avocado without mucking around.

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Hmmm ..... do your bees have no wings ??

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15 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Hmmm ..... do your bees have no wings ??

I know, I know...there's noo accountin fer some folks

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26 minutes ago, yesbut said:

So I could move them 100 metres to my avocado without mucking around.

so split them and move them the 100 meters.

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The old orchardists used to reckon the worst pollination was in the tree right beside the hive.

Had a small swarm in a tree at home yesterday. Don't think it was one of mine unless the superseding breeder decided to swarm instead. It does happen.

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15 minutes ago, john berry said:

The old orchardists used to reckon the worst pollination was in the tree right beside the hive.

they tell me the best pollination is the tree next to the hive.

 

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Went through the hives again yesterday, on last inspection I knew I had about a week to get a new box built and ready to go on as one hive is really cranking. Decided to go through my last years notes. Interestingly this time last year I had already done 2x walk away spits and dragged a couple of nucs off a couple of hives and that was all done in the 1st week of Oct.  So far this year i've got one hive with a tonne of play cups, (20+) and the rest don't even look like they are wanting to swarm.  Maybe a couple of cups and plenty of space. Now i've said all this next week they'll all be swarmy.

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Yep ..... we are about a month behind this year. Cruisiest spring ever !

And the moral to the photo is ....’It ‘aint over til it’s over.’

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2 hours ago, BRB said:

So far this year i've got one hive with a tonne of play cups, (20+)

 

Why do people call these swarm cups play cups?  To me generally swarm cups are built when the queen is running out of space to lay and/or (particularly if there are large numbers of swarm cells), the queen is exhibiting an increased swarming strain. 

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5 hours ago, Maggie James said:

 

Why do people call these swarm cups play cups?  To me generally swarm cups are built when the queen is running out of space to lay and/or (particularly if there are large numbers of swarm cells), the queen is exhibiting an increased swarming strain. 

It's just what someone told me they were called..

 

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On 24/10/2019 at 7:12 PM, Bighands said:

It looks like rubbish on the coast and I see the quintina budding up

Little bit of subject, but was that you at the Fox River Market?

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A beautiful Waikato day just in time for Labour Weekend . Blue sky 22 degrees .

 

With the end of blueberries flowering , we get a dearth now until the catsear blooms .  It will be a few weeks .

My hives are in a knife edge . They’ve built up well and are now out of food with lots of bees. Most would have half a frame of nectar . Brood pattern is shotgun as the bees eat eggs for protein .

All completely normal .

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14 minutes ago, M4tt said:

Brood pattern is shotgun as the bees eat eggs for protein .

to me if they are down to that stage they are stuffed and pretty much a write off for the season.

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