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Hi There,

 

I was wondering if someone could answer the following question...

 

Manuka DNA Cq <36 is required by MPI to be classed Manuka.

 

Can bush honey have Manuka DNA <36? 

 

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Yes it does, as does beech honey dew in an area with no Manuka around.

every single batch of honey we have tested passes the Manuka DNA test no matter what the actual Manuka content is. 

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So all honey is <36?

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2 minutes ago, Rookie said:

So all honey is <36?

 All our honey since the standard came in is.

i was told , but don’t know if it’s true, that the Manuka DNA was part of the text because Australian Jellybush won’t pass the test so .

the whys and wherefore of that would need to be answered by someone who’s in the know .

 

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17 hours ago, Rookie said:

 

Can bush honey have Manuka DNA <36? 

 

 

Yes it can. So can a clover honey. The test is specific . . .the bees aren't !

That's why the DNA test for the standard is not used in isolation from the chemical markers

 

17 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

Yes it does, as does beech honey dew in an area with no Manuka around.

 

The bees aren't making the manuka DNA themselves Frazz  :14_relaxed:

 

17 hours ago, Rookie said:

So all honey is <36?

 

No, not necessarily

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4 hours ago, JohnF said:

 

The bees aren't making the manuka DNA themselves Frazz  :14_relaxed:

 

 

No they aren’t but it’s pretty obvious you only need one Manuka Bush in the entire valley to get a pass on the DNA.

 

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25 minutes ago, frazzledfozzle said:

 

No they aren’t but it’s pretty obvious you only need one Manuka Bush in the entire valley to get a pass on the DNA.

 

 

Sure. . . .if its the only thing flowering !

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1 hour ago, JohnF said:

 

Sure. . . .if its the only thing flowering !

:14_relaxed:

 

So tell me how all our honeydew honey passes the Manuka DNA when there’s not a Manuka Bush within cooee and the honey never crystallises or separates ?

where is the secret valley of Manuka bushes ?

 

just how many bushes does it take to get a pass on the DNA ?

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I like the sound of Honey Dew passing the Manuka DNA .....  Today we were wintering ..... pulling queen excluders, putting in more staples and telling ourselves not to be greeedy...... we could have puled in another 100 heavy boxes of dew .... but we left it for the bees..... until ....... check out this Dadda ..... 

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I have to say I totally completely 100% do not understand this manuka definition business. Thank all the powers it doesn't effect me.

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My ole mate who I was talking to the other night

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Classic! So his girlfriends are behind the wire? Poor ######. 

You could always build a soil ramp on outside of the fence to give him his dream of getting in 

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@jamescI know more than a couple of blokes who would love to have that on the wall !

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Running a risk here I know but AFAIC trophy hunting = sick.

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1 hour ago, yesbut said:

Running a risk here I know but AFAIC trophy hunting = sick.

Don't worry, pink cats are not high on the trophy list of most hunters, you should be safe.

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11 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

@jamescI know more than a couple of blokes who would love to have that on the wall !

Haha .... Get a couple of honey buyers up for a free bee and get their testosterone going ....

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19 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Haha .... Get a couple of honey buyers up for a free bee and get their testosterone going ....

Now that could be part of a shrewd and cunning plan!

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So tell me how all our honeydew honey passes the Manuka DNA when there’s not a Manuka Bush within cooee and the honey never crystallises or separates ?

where is the secret valley of Manuka bushes ?

 

just how many bushes does it take to get a pass on the DNA ?

13 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

 

So tell me how all our honeydew honey passes the Manuka DNA when there’s not a Manuka Bush within cooee and the honey never crystallises or separates ?

where is the secret valley of Manuka bushes ?

 

just how many bushes does it take to get a pass on the DNA ? 

 

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So tell me how all our honeydew honey passes the Manuka DNA when there’s not a Manuka Bush within cooee and the honey never crystallises or separates ?

where is the secret valley of Manuka bushes ?

 

just how many bushes does it take to get a pass on the DNA ?

 

Next time you get beech dew extracted, pay a staff member to wave manuka flowers over the beech dew before it goes in the tank. 

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22 minutes ago, Sailabee said:

Now that could be part of a shrewd and cunning plan!

Aaah ..... the cunning plan.  Not that again 😘!

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38 minutes ago, Sailabee said:

Now that could be part of a shrewd and cunning plan!

No, not a Shrew but a Plan so cunning you could pin a tail on and call it a Weasel😉

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1 hour ago, jamesc said:

Haha .... Get a couple of honey buyers up for a free bee and get their testosterone going ....

Done that this year, night in the hut, deer taken ( butchered & carried out by me) booze drunk, lies told.....  no sale made. 

Was worth a try I spose. 

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2 hours ago, Stoney said:

Done that this year, night in the hut, deer taken ( butchered & carried out by me) booze drunk, lies told.....  no sale made. 

Was worth a try I spose. 

Polite Vegans mate

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2 hours ago, jamesc said:

Polite Vegans mate

I sincerely hope they class the yeasts that produce alcohol as animal, would seem product may be wasted otherwise. 

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On 9/04/2019 at 5:34 PM, yesbut said:

I have to say I totally completely 100% do not understand this manuka definition business. Thank all the powers it doesn't effect me.

you are not on your own there,

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On 9/04/2019 at 6:52 PM, yesbut said:

Running a risk here I know but AFAIC trophy hunting = sick.

AFAIC .... ??

At the risk of being politically un correct....

it’s a tough world out there .... but we all hsve to eat.... and up here it takes a bitof lead.

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Dogs all got full tummies.

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