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Clear evidence of robbing of a balcony Warre hive 2 days ago. Lots of bees in front and wax scrapings outside the entrance. I reduced the entrance to one bee width and covered with wet sheet. The number of robbers rapidly abated. That evening we got rain through Saturday. There little activity this morning and no further wax scrapings (since I closed it down). The occasional wasp around and one seen going into the entrance this am. I’d thought of leaving it another day (forecast fine in AKL) then inspecting tomorrow. Thoughts please. 

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1 hour ago, Timw said:

Clear evidence of robbing of a balcony Warre hive 2 days ago. Lots of bees in front and wax scrapings outside the entrance. I reduced the entrance to one bee width and covered with wet sheet. The number of robbers rapidly abated. That evening we got rain through Saturday. There little activity this morning and no further wax scrapings (since I closed it down). The occasional wasp around and one seen going into the entrance this am. I’d thought of leaving it another day (forecast fine in AKL) then inspecting tomorrow. Thoughts please. 

You did good . 

You won't know the Carnage until you open it , but it won't be good . They never are after robbing .

Check for disease, make sure there are eggs and a queen, and reduce them to a box size that suits the number of bees . 

If there is outlying brood getting chilled , try as best as you can to get all the brood all together 

 

Good luck 

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Thanks @M4tt  will look tomorrow 

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Thanks @M4tt  will look tomorrow 

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I like your wet sheet idea. I’ve turned on the sprinkler when it’s been wild once or twice, but this is a better plan.

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1 hour ago, cBank said:

I like your wet sheet idea. I’ve turned on the sprinkler when it’s been wild once or twice, but this is a better plan.

I have had success with a wet sheet 

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400 thread count Egyptian cotton worked well but don’t tell her indoors 

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OK. @M4tt you were right on the money. Deadout!  Some capped cells with dead fully formed bees. A few with dead lava that didn’t rope out - looked more like sac brood. I’ve taken a few samples of these and will send in for analysis.  

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It must be disappointing to find that @Timw. Was this the one with the cross comb? I hope the other one is doing better.

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No not x combed at all. Lost 2/6 but the other came from a secondary swarm that never did well and in hindsight I should probably have requeened

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Robbing is often the final stage of death by varroa mites.

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2 hours ago, Timw said:

No not x combed at all. Lost 2/6 but the other came from a secondary swarm that never did well and in hindsight I should probably have requeened

you are far from the first or only person to loose a hive. The most important thing is what you learn from it- although sometimes it would be nice if the lessons weren't quite so harsh.

 

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checked on a hive separated from my others today.

saw a big carpet of dead bees outside it.

it is half way down our hill and must be too close to the migrants.

it was my second strongest hive.

i wonder if all the dead bees are mine , they have been dead a while.

i will open the hive and look when we have our next windy day.

there was still bees flying in and out.

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12 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

Might have starved out if your weather has been rubbish 

My other hives have not been robbed .

They are at the top of the hill and any wind acts as a barrier .

The robbed hive could have been in a flight path regardless of wind . I have never put a hive there before 

One lot of migrants have removed all their hives from near me so I will look tomorrow .

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On 16/03/2019 at 12:50 PM, Mummzie said:

you are far from the first or only person to loose a hive. The most important thing is what you learn from it- although sometimes it would be nice if the lessons weren't quite so harsh.

 

 

On 16/03/2019 at 12:50 PM, Mummzie said:

you are far from the first or only person to loose a hive. The most important thing is what you learn from it- although sometimes it would be nice if the lessons weren't quite so harsh.

 

I am finding in season 3 with a couple more hives it’s a constant learning curve. Part of it is having confidence when to intervene and when to leave alone. I thought a while back I was going to loose the topbar and talked to a queen raiser about requeening. He advised to leave and await supercedure. A month later found a lovely queen and now it’s my strongest hive. So there are ups as well as downs. Fascinating 

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