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I got called out to the first 2 swarms of the season today.  Unfortunately they are both for extermination as they have gone behind an Oamaru Stone wall and vertical cedar wall paneling.

 

I guess it is time to get the swarm gear out.

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Got some scouts so will put up some swarm traps. They sniff about then swarm elsewhere like chimneys, walls and other people's gardens lol. 

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And a neighbour a street over just called me to help - swarm!

 

Off there now.

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23 minutes ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

I got called out to the first 2 swarms of the season today.  Unfortunately they are both for extermination as they have gone behind an Oamaru Stone wall and vertical cedar wall paneling.

 

I guess it is time to get the swarm gear out.

How is the timing compared to last year ?

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It seems earlier than last season, I have picked up my first 2 for the season recently (10 days back?) in an urban setting. 1 black Q and 1 Italianish. Can only imagine they come from under managed hives.

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1 hour ago, yesbut said:

How is the timing compared to last year ?

17-10-17

30-9-16

10-10-15

So about 2 to 5 weeks early.

 

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I found swarm cells in a hive yesterday first time seeing them big hive tho.

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I think the supersede cells I found in my hive are swarm cells now.

I checked yesterday and the queen has improved her laying pattern and was busy .

 

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2 hours ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

I got called out to the first 2 swarms of the season today.  Unfortunately they are both for extermination as they have gone behind an Oamaru Stone wall and vertical cedar wall paneling.

 

I guess it is time to get the swarm gear out.

Sounds like you need an old tired stonemason as a sidekick... ? 

Oops i meant re tired. 

Or actually maybe I mean re treaded.. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Stoney said:

Sounds like you need an old tired stonemason as a sidekick... ? 

Oops i meant re tired. 

Or actually maybe I mean re treaded.. 

 

 

The bees are not worth that much effort @Stoney

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Checked Wensday (saw practice cups and had a couple of frames at the ready for the brood nest )and full check on Sunday. Were filling empty cells in brood nest with nectar and had stopped raising drone brood. Only one practice cup and no queen spotted, larvae but no eggs as  cranking (and cranky) no roar so suspect a virgin supercedure queen. May have squished queen by accident on 12th but eqivalent of 1&1/2 supers occuped so at the ready to super up more. Expecting a cold snap which may slow them down a bit. Nice dusting of snow (50cm) in the south seen on the TV news tonight.

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On 17/09/2018 at 5:14 PM, Trevor Gillbanks said:

I got called out to the first 2 swarms of the season today.  Unfortunately they are both for extermination as they have gone behind an Oamaru Stone wall and vertical cedar wall paneling.

 

I guess it is time to get the swarm gear out.

I had this image..

A scene from the movie Ghost busters

instead its...

there’s something going on in the neighbourhood...

who you going to call....

swarm busters ?

 

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Collected a tennis ball size swarm last week with a virgin queen, guess I missed the big one :(

 

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collected our first swarm yesterday off a fence post, we are looking at about 2-3 weeks earlier than last year, two hives this week hatching queens as iam inspecting them,

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I just went through my first winter and reading books had planned split before october 

 

Gave them a third box and planned split for 2 pm Sunday sept 23. on arrival home from holiday at 1:45 was told by the neighbour that they already left in the morning 

8-10 queen cells and enough bees and resources to split hive still so went ahead.

 

Monday morning I found the swarm up the road in the bushes and caught them.  Now I have a three way split (still have to wait 3-4 weeks before claiming successfully mated queens but looking great once this cold wind goes away)

 

my my queen is carni, which I knew build up earlier

 

Very much in love with my bees and glad to have them home

 

(i heard of at least 4 other Auckland swans in the last week)

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That’s a biggie. They’ll have had a rough few days as it’s been cold, wet and windy.

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Today my hive swarmed and I  got it all into a nuc box .

It landed in the top of a rata tree , too high for the ladder to reach .

So I got hubby to try and blow it down lower with the drone .

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But the bees ignored the down draft , thinking it was just another windy day .

So I climbed as high as I could and bashed it with a pole to shake it lower.

 it moved so I could get a box under it and  I shook some into the box but most fell all over me .

I now know swarming bees do sting and bees can sting through the veil .

But the swarm did move around the tree and I moved after it with loppers and a bucket till eventually I had got all of it .

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Going by your posts here you seem to do an awful lot of various manipulations yet still lose a swarm ??

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31 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

Today my hive swarmed and I  got it all into a nuc box .

It landed in the top of a rata tree , too high for the ladder to reach .

So I got hubby to try and blow it down lower with the drone .

 

But the bees ignored the down draft , thinking it was just another windy day .

So I climbed as high as I could and bashed it with a pole to shake it lower.

 it moved so I could get a box under it and  I shook some into the box but most fell all over me .

I now know swarming bees do sting and bees can sting through the veil .

But the swarm did move around the tree and I moved after it with loppers and a bucket till eventually I had got all of it .

The things we do for bees ?

glad you caught it and hope they stay 

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Drove through a swarm today near the Oparau Roadhouse on the way to Kawhia 

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9 minutes ago, M4tt said:

Drove through a swarm today near the Oparau Roadhouse on the way to Kawhia 

Swarm buster in action?

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40 minutes ago, yesbut said:

Going by your posts here you seem to do an awful lot of various manipulations yet still lose a swarm ??

This was a pretty carniolan hive with last season queen .

I had accidently put the queen above the excluder in a three box hive .

A few days later I checked and I put her  in the bottom box below an excluder .

Because there was a box between the top box and the queen,  the bees in the top box thought they were queenless and made lots of  cells .

I must have missed one .

I have not had a hive swarm on me for 2 seasons .

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A colleague alerted me to a swarm. They were outside the Novatel in Greenlane (god knows where they were from). Annoyingly camped in 2 or 3 clumps in a hedge so fishing them out was a pain, especially in a shirt in failing light.

 

It comfortably covers 6 frames (3/4 ones) at a guess but will confirm once the dust settles as it was a bit of a mad rush.

 

Another joyous time with the night time crawlies.

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On 30/09/2018 at 8:19 PM, kaihoka said:

This was a pretty carniolan hive with last season queen .

I had accidently put the queen above the excluder in a three box hive .

A few days later I checked and I put her  in the bottom box below an excluder .

 

As a beginner, it’s bloody confusing the first time you’re hit by a queen on the wrong side. I put mine back together and went inside to make a plan. They sounded ok, looked ok but had no eggs or young brood.

After a break I decided to check the top box before getting too excited. And there she was. Excluders seem to cause me more pain than they should. This seems like something @yesbut would say...

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1 minute ago, cBank said:

 

As a beginner, it’s bloody confusing the first time you’re hit by a queen on the wrong side. I put mine back together and went inside to make a plan. They sounded ok, looked ok but had no eggs or young brood.

After a break I decided to check the top box before getting too excited. And there she was. Excluders seem to cause me more pain than they should. This seems like something @yesbut would say...

I marked my queens in summer .

But my now the colour has worn off and the queens have gone bronze.

She ended up above the excluder because when I put another box on I brought up a  couple of frames of bees , one of which was drone brood .

I missed seeing her .

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