Popular Post Alastair 8,630 Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 I don't normally start the spring round till mid August, but today I drove past a site and noticed a lot of bees flying so went over for a look, bees pouring in and out, they have never before been this busy this early at this site. Later I called in at a nuc yard to see if they needed a feed, popped the lids and some of them had 3 combs of brood and choca with bees, more bees than I expect to see even in some of the full hives at this time of year. After the crappy winter I was expecting things to be late, but looks like the reverse is the case. Some things are just a mystery! 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Dave12 0 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 I think so I have hives with alot of drones. I haven't been feeding they still have winter stores. But I am in kerikeri Link to post Share on other sites
Otto 780 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 We've had lots of shorts and a t-shirt weather down in Dunedin over the last few weeks. Lots of fresh pollen in hives and, not surprisingly, they're rearing brood. Need to make sure they have enough food to look after that brood if the weather turns colder again so I've been out feeding those that need it. Link to post Share on other sites
Old Timer 62 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 It has been a mild winter down here in Duds, noticeably the bees didn't really shut down for winter, but it was cold enough that they didn't chew through their winter stores. Otto is feeding out some but that all depends on how much honey was left on the hives. Finding three frames of brood at this time of the year is not uncommon after having the warm days of late. I'll be starting to feed out syrup in 2 - 3 weeks just to stimulate brood laying for preparation for splitting in September. I only hope the weather stays mild enough for the drones to fly for mating. Last year I had to requeen all my splits after three weeks as a cold spell struck right when all my queens were meant to be out on mating flights, it set me back, having to apologise to customers for not having the hives ready for sale. Fingers crossed this year will be a better one. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Alastair 8,630 Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 Splitting? There's still a good market for ever increasing beehive numbers in Dunedin? Link to post Share on other sites
Philbee 4,675 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I ordered a 1000kg dry sugar this week but the way its looking the five finger will kick them off and the sugar will fill the gap after that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hannes 126 Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Just did my first check for the spring, only lost 1, everybody else is looking pretty good. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Harlan Cox 107 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Our hives are up and running, especially the warmer coastal sites. I wasn't too happy with how most hives looked going into winter but they've come out the other side really well. Now just to make sure I stay one step ahead with feed, the strongest are starting to chew through their stores at an alarming rate. Left the best part of a box of honey on most and it seems to be paying off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 41 minutes ago, Harlan Cox said: Our hives are up and running, especially the warmer coastal sites. I wasn't too happy with how most hives looked going into winter but they've come out the other side really well. Now just to make sure I stay one step ahead with feed, the strongest are starting to chew through their stores at an alarming rate. Left the best part of a box of honey on most and it seems to be paying off. Do you have early honey flows besides Manuka . Northland is so much warmer than where I live there must be lots of early flowering . Link to post Share on other sites
Harlan Cox 107 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 There isn't a heap of nectar early on other than manuka. Some years a little off the Hakea, mingimingi in some spots. Really we wait for manuka and Rewarewa. Plenty of gorse in flower now though that seems to kick things off @kaihoka Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Harlan Cox said: There isn't a heap of nectar early on other than manuka. Some years a little off the Hakea, mingimingi in some spots. Really we wait for manuka and Rewarewa. Plenty of gorse in flower now though that seems to kick things off @kaihoka What happens with the hakea ? Doesn't it flower every year there . It flowers very reliably for 3 months every year here . Link to post Share on other sites
shano 1 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 I too have already started to see drone brood appear in some of my hives and the queen laying a lot of eggs already. If I was looking at doing porpoise splits, when do you think the earliest I could do this would be? I figure that once I start seeing Drones present in the hive, by the time a new queen is born the drones would have matured enough to mate so I was thinking I would get away with it in about two weeks time? Link to post Share on other sites
M4tt 4,941 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, shano said: I too have already started to see drone brood appear in some of my hives and the queen laying a lot of eggs already. If I was looking at doing porpoise splits, when do you think the earliest I could do this would be? I figure that once I start seeing Drones present in the hive, by the time a new queen is born the drones would have matured enough to mate so I was thinking I would get away with it in about two weeks time? From memory drones need to be about 40 days old to be mature enough to mate . So based on that you’d probably hold off a couple or three weeks . I’ve split hives beginning Sept with success . Based on that your talking the latter half of sept before she flies 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Philbee 4,675 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) This is a Photo from 2016, 9th Sept which is one month away This was a 3 box hive and the top box is similar. I have a hunch that this will be a similar Spring to that one Edited August 9, 2018 by Philbee 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Ted 404 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, shano said: I too have already started to see drone brood appear in some of my hives and the queen laying a lot of eggs already. If I was looking at doing porpoise splits, when do you think the earliest I could do this would be? I figure that once I start seeing Drones present in the hive, by the time a new queen is born the drones would have matured enough to mate so I was thinking I would get away with it in about two weeks time? Porpoise split??? Quick call Greenpeace!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
werdna 13 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, shano said: I too have already started to see drone brood appear in some of my hives and the queen laying a lot of eggs already. If I was looking at doing porpoise splits, when do you think the earliest I could do this would be? I figure that once I start seeing Drones present in the hive, by the time a new queen is born the drones would have matured enough to mate so I was thinking I would get away with it in about two weeks time? You also need enough mating weather conditions I've found most queens need min 19 degree (real feel) for mating flights. Some need 18, some need 20 After 28 days from emergence the queen can't be mated with (her thingy closes up), sometimes sooner Edited August 9, 2018 by werdna Link to post Share on other sites
dansar 5,524 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, werdna said: You also need enough mating weather conditions I've found most queens need min 19 degree (real feel) for mating flights. Some need 18, some need 20 After 28 days from emergence the queen can't be mated with (her thingy closes up), sometimes sooner The temp idea has been discussed a lot. I find bees will fly in temps as low as 6 degrees. Virgin queens and drones will fly in temps around 14 degrees. Although 19-20 is ideal. Most of the time we don’t get ideal weather conditions. Having said that I think you need to breed bees that are for your particular location. Northland Bees won’t do as well over winter Stewart Island Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 As far as I can work out I had a queen mate at the end of June . When I look back at weather records I see temps maxed out at about 15 degrees . But we had very little wind , esp no westerly. The hive was also in an area with a good flow on . I know that is not supposed to make any difference to mating except that the hives may make drones if there is a regular flow . Link to post Share on other sites
hunterjd15 0 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Sounds like a pretty good winter for everyone. I'm looking for someone that would sort of mentor me, this will be my third Yr and I would love a reliable source for questions. Thx Link to post Share on other sites
yesbut 6,232 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, hunterjd15 said: Sounds like a pretty good winter for everyone. I'm looking for someone that would sort of mentor me, this will be my third Yr and I would love a reliable source for questions. Thx Welcome to the forum @hunterjd15 ! For a start, you could get familiar with the forum search feature. There's been a huge number of questions/answers over the last few years. I think you'd be doing really really really well to come up with an original question... Link to post Share on other sites
hunterjd15 0 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 @yesbut thx for the advise, I will check it out. Link to post Share on other sites
olbe 238 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Hey @hunterjd15 you could join the SNI beekeeping group , its a bargain at 10 bucks, I am sure you will be able to get lots of help and advice from some of their members. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hunterjd15 0 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 @olbe will look into it. Thx Link to post Share on other sites
Roger 873 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just checked my town hives (Remuera) and all are thriving with new brood, eggs and stores. Drones as well. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Otto 780 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 We're having a pretty good run of weather in Dunedin of late. Bees are collecting loads of pollen and when I was going through some town hives a few days ago I was shaking fresh nectar out of brood frames. Very early for down here. Link to post Share on other sites
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