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1 hour ago, Philbee said:


Does the farmer lose any sleep when he sends a 12 year old milker off to the works to be processed into table steak?


 

He does when the consumer finds out that it's kangaroo or donkey.
Better to market the donkey and kangaroo on their own merits. Kangaroo is as good as it gets.

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3 hours ago, Philbee said:

Which is exactly why we need to grab every opportunity as it presents itself
So what if a Jar of Manuka has some Bush in it,
Does the farmer lose any sleep when he sends a 12 year old milker off to the works to be processed into table steak?

No way, and its time we got over the BS and realize that we are on track to remain the most PC paupers on the planet.
 

Revolution Brother .... sharpen yer hive tool .... let's get some levies going and raise a bit cash for some research into value added so that we can live the dream.

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5 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Revolution Brother .... sharpen yer hive tool .... let's get some levies going and raise a bit cash for some research into value added so that we can live the dream.

First of all identify some like minded researchers that are already looking, then back them
They need to be good guys not trough dwellers 

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The focus needs to be Burn treatments, Eye Meds and all things Dermatological 

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6 minutes ago, Philbee said:

The focus needs to be Burn treatments and Eye Meds 

I have a small infected mossie bite on my cheek bone .

I have been trying to fix it with lots of stuff over the last 6 weeks.

Iodine , tea tree oil , hydrogen peroxide , medipulv.

However the only thing that has shown any sign of controlling the infection is a poltice of Manuka honey and garlic .

I do not know if it is active Manuka , it was given to me by someone in hawkes bay .

 

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2 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

I have a small infected mossie bite on my cheek bone .

I have been trying to fix it with lots of stuff over the last 6 weeks.

Iodine , tea tree oil , hydrogen peroxide , medipulv.

However the only thing that has shown any sign of controlling the infection is a poltice of Manuka honey and garlic .

I do not know if it is active Manuka , it was given to me by someone in hawkes bay .

 

$300/kg

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25 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

I have a small infected mossie bite on my cheek bone .

Skin cancer

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9 minutes ago, yesbut said:

Skin cancer

No , probably not 

Will see doctor tomorrow anyway .

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40 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

I have a small infected mossie bite on my cheek bone .

I have been trying to fix it with lots of stuff over the last 6 weeks.

Iodine , tea tree oil , hydrogen peroxide , medipulv.

However the only thing that has shown any sign of controlling the infection is a poltice of Manuka honey and garlic .

I do not know if it is active Manuka , it was given to me by someone in hawkes bay .

 

Try some raw honey from your home hive. Will do just as good.

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1 hour ago, Philbee said:

First of all identify some like minded researchers that are already looking, then back them
They need to be good guys not trough dwellers 

Uh huh .... I have a retired mad scientist mate who is as bored as hell looking for a project. 

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2 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Uh huh .... I have a retired mad scientist mate who is as bored as hell looking for a project. 

Well that's easy then, just point him at your dew supply and tell him to find a use for it.

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3 minutes ago, yesbut said:

Well that's easy then, just point him at your dew supply and tell him to find a use for it.

i heard that feeding a cow 1kg of dew honey vaccinates them against M bovis..

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7 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Uh huh .... I have a retired mad scientist mate who is as bored as hell looking for a project. 

retired? , do you mean tired once again?

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1 minute ago, tommy dave said:

i heard that feeding a cow 1kg of dew honey vaccinates them against M bovis..

I herd the same

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Honeydew, natures Viagra.
I'd start the rumour myself but I might need it for my clover yet.

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8 hours ago, CraBee said:

 

Yes it is inherently risky.  Upfront expenditure, and uncertain "lumpy" cashflow.

 

I'm not so sure about the barriers to entry being low though.  They are low for someone with 20-50 hives, but that is just a sideline.  But to make a living for one person lets say that is 400-600 hives.  All the hiveware, all the bees (and of course the important Queens for you..), vehicles, trailers, premises and then a whole heap of operational costs - sugar, treatments, diesel, labour if needed, etc its soon costly even if you run it reasonably lean.  It can also take time to build up from nothing so maybe a couple of years of small losses..

 

 Low barrier to entry when you can work them on the side and build the hives up while taking nothing out of the business.....thats the old way of doing things. Take a few years, work doing something else over winter, drive dungers till you can afford better and run things lean...it takes a while but its doable and a damn sight cheaper and more achievable than any other farming.

 

Even coming in on the high end buying yourself into the business the barrier to entry is lower than buying a farm or horticulture block...which you then have to populate with your crop/animal of choice.

 

I always thought that those living in the boonies had the right idea, lower costs for your base, generally more willing workeres around, high value manuka crops on your doorstep, low competition....basically the same value in your product but lower costs. Now with migratory beekeepers and the sharks that circle any area that has the hint of a manuka flower I'm not so sure that this is the case.

 

It's all relative, low barrier to entry (or at least lower) when compared with other types of farming.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Kiwifruiter said:

Try some raw honey from your home hive. Will do just as good.

I think so too.

The Manuka is comb honey .

I think the any honey that has a low water content will draw fluids to the surface.

So as a medium to carry other substances , like garlic , Kawa Kawa , rangiora etc it is a very effective dressing .

I may get an antibiotic cream tomorrow but I have used honey mixed with other stuff to successfully treat infections before .

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4 hours ago, kaihoka said:

No , probably not 

Will see doctor tomorrow anyway .

About time !!!

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8 hours ago, kaihoka said:

I think so too.

The Manuka is comb honey .

I think the any honey that has a low water content will draw fluids to the surface.

So as a medium to carry other substances , like garlic , Kawa Kawa , rangiora etc it is a very effective dressing .

I may get an antibiotic cream tomorrow but I have used honey mixed with other stuff to successfully treat infections before .

The other thing that is very good for treating infections is Manuka Oil.

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11 hours ago, yesbut said:

Well that's easy then, just point him at your dew supply and tell him to find a use for it.

You wanna contribute to his cash payment at the end of each month ?

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41 minutes ago, jamesc said:

You wanna contribute to his cash payment at the end of each month ?

It's not my honey. You were the one who went and harvested the stuff

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10 hours ago, tudor said:

About time !!!

I think antibiotics are a wonderful magic bullet that has saved the life of people I know , including myself when I broke my leg.

However with current resistance to them that's developing we might all have to get creative in our treatment of infections.

As an old hippy my peer group warned against misuse of antibiotics in the 70s and were mocked and heavily criticised for our opinions.

 

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Point well taken but it is my experience that things which don't heal need attention, mainly for a diagnosis, I have had too many patients with quite treatable nasty things which have been ignored for far too long.

Good luck :14_relaxed:

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7 hours ago, tudor said:

Point well taken but it is my experience that things which don't heal need attention, mainly for a diagnosis, I have had too many patients with quite treatable nasty things which have been ignored for far too long.

Good luck :14_relaxed:

The nurse gave me a hydrogen peroxide cream called , crystaderm.

She said they are trying to use other treatments first because of the concern about antibiotics.

I think the internet has made the resistance issue much worse.

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9 minutes ago, kaihoka said:

The nurse gave me a hydrogen peroxide cream called , crystaderm.

That being the case, as kiwifruiter says, any honey should do the trick

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