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1 hour ago, tommy dave said:

less than $200 a hive seems the going rate for medium sized lots from auckland commercial beekeepers?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561357381&archive=1

 

If you look closely at the frames there are only about enough bees to properly cover five frames ie they are nucs.

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1 hour ago, tommy dave said:

less than $200 a hive seems the going rate for medium sized lots from auckland commercial beekeepers?

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1561357381&archive=1

No its not the going rate

Its what someone sold some beehives for
I gave a hive away a month or two ago, does that set the value of hives?
Whats more these are not good singles, they are slow Nucs in 10 frame boxes possibly riddled with PMS
 

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It seems that unlike most things buying in multiples puts the price up .

 Getting Only one hive is often free but getting two or three will cost you $100s .

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there seams to be quite a lot of hives coming on for sale at the mo.

also the grapevine has been saying there is commercial outfits up for sale.

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I get the feeling that a good strong single in spring will be worth $400-600. There will be beeks that have gotten new manuka sites/have lost hives over winter and will have money to buy hives. Those types will not be looking now so I dont see why you would be wanting to sell large numbers of hives now....

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1 hour ago, Kiwifruiter said:

I get the feeling that a good strong single in spring will be worth $400-600. There will be beeks that have gotten new manuka sites/have lost hives over winter and will have money to buy hives. Those types will not be looking now so I dont see why you would be wanting to sell large numbers of hives now....

most who are buying hives are either newbees or people who do not know what they are doing. especially those buying in spring.

it makes no sense to buy hives in when you can make your own, or to buy hives when the price is at its highest.

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5 hours ago, tristan said:

most who are buying hives are either newbees or people who do not know what they are doing. especially those buying in spring.

it makes no sense to buy hives in when you can make your own, or to buy hives when the price is at its highest.

Morons with money make the world go round.....

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The trick is to over winter well and produce a surplus of good strong splitable doubles early in spring.

These are worth good money to someone who has a good Manuka block and spaces to fill.
Ive sold really strong singles for 800 and the deal was that they had to be splitable so the buyer could have a win as well.
 

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11 hours ago, tristan said:

there seams to be quite a lot of hives coming on for sale at the mo.

also the grapevine has been saying there is commercial outfits up for sale.

A newbee in Taupo just paid $500 each for two PMS Doubles. FD brood and empty 3/4 honey box on
Why anyone would buy an Autumn Hive is beyond me

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15 hours ago, CraBee said:

 

If you look closely at the frames there are only about enough bees to properly cover five frames ie they are nucs.

 

Yes, and I can see no comb on one or two frames. Plus they are only 8 frames total....... they will look strong in a 5 frames nuc. It is not a bad money if we look at it like that(lots of feeding will be required too).

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21 hours ago, Philbee said:

A newbee in Taupo just paid $500 each for two PMS Doubles. FD brood and empty 3/4 honey box on
Why anyone would buy an Autumn Hive is beyond me

people will sell crap any time of year.

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16 minutes ago, tristan said:

people will sell crap any time of year.

yes but at least spring crap has time on its side and sun on its back

 

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46 minutes ago, Philbee said:

yes but at least spring crap has time on its side and sun on its back

 

i would rather just buy the non-crap.

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23 hours ago, Philbee said:

A newbee in Taupo just paid $500 each for two PMS Doubles. FD brood and empty 3/4 honey box on
Why anyone would buy an Autumn Hive is beyond me

The answer is your second word in your post.

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Been there, done that. Spent all summer persevorating about whether to make the leap or not, then jumped late. 

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1 hour ago, Josh said:

persevorating

???

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2 hours ago, kaihoka said:

???

Perseverating - repeating insistently even if the stimulus is gone. Like a toddler who keeps on and on crying but can't really remember what started it.

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2 hours ago, Janice said:

Perseverating - repeating insistently even if the stimulus is gone. Like a toddler who keeps on and on crying but can't really remember what started it.

oh

persevering .:14_relaxed:

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3 hours ago, Janice said:

Like a toddler who keeps on and on crying but can't really remember what started it.

or a forum beekeeper

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looks like people are lucky to get $200 for a three box healthy hive of bees these days. Big contrast to $1000 only a few years ago.

e.g. https://trademe.nz/marketplace/business-farming-industry/farming-forestry/beekeeping/listing/2299444933?fbclid=IwAR36kRLG1QIMEo3CYBdL4chwCQXVcVU4eASzTJcGfK8kq2JFw_tXmIAQZ4c

 

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Well there ya have it . Reading the 'Beekeepers Advocate' this evening ..... the guys in the beeswax industry reckon it will take five to ten years for the industry to come right.

Seems like there's no future in melting out hives either.

Hmmm. 

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I think I see on Trade me a considerable amount of hives went for $200.

Lets do the maths.

I always remember being told a hive is worth what it will produce in a year.

30kg @ $4.00/kg  = $120.     The buyer paid too much.

30kg @  $8.00/kg  = $240.     The buyer did alright.

 

Whose getting $8.00/kg for non manuka honey ??

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2 hours ago, jamesc said:

I think I see on Trade me a considerable amount of hives went for $200.

there was some discussion that the person bidding only wanted a small number and didn't realize its for the whole lot.

however i don't know for sure at the moment, wait and see.

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