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You can tell refugees/swarms from a commercial yard by all the black eyes, band-aided wings, crutches, and dropped Tramadol  tabs

I have been 'caught' with this, kind of, but it was not a case of having made up my mind already, it was a case I was trying to explain what I currently had heard, been told, watched or witnessed, and

Can't say for your situation, however we have had 2 swarms each season come thru our property in town. not far from orchards. Guess is the swarms are coming from there. Last one arrived last week, mov

1 hour ago, Bees said:

Did you have the new queens just in nucs and they swarmed from there....or did you rehouse them into hive boxes?

Swarmed from nuc boxes. The same would have happened if they ran out of room in a 10 frame box.  if the colony runs out of room It will swarm with a new queen.

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19 minutes ago, dansar said:

Swarmed from nuc boxes. The same would have happened if they ran out of room in a 10 frame box.  if the colony runs out of room It will swarm with a new queen.

10 days ago I put a box with a queen right hive on a queen less hive , I put it over a queen excluder and paper and a stick under the box  it for a top entrance.

Today I removed the excluder and a quick glance in the top box showed me the queen had laid to the edge.

I rearranged the boxes but the other two boxes are full of pollen and honey .

Should I take some out and put in foundation . That will still not give her anywhere immediately to lay .

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10 days ago I put a box with a queen right hive on a queen less hive , I put it over a queen excluder and paper and a stick under the box  it for a top entrance.

Today I removed the excluder and a quick glance in the top box showed me the queen had laid to the edge.

I rearranged the boxes but the other two boxes are full of pollen and honey .

Should I take some out and put in foundation . That will still not give her anywhere immediately to lay .

Is the a nectar flow coming in? Adding foundation frames may be worse than putting in the honey pollen ones as the bees can move the honey around to make room for the queen, also feed to new grubs. If there are enough bees it might pay to put another box on anyway to give them space and something to work on.

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Pleasant day in new plymouth ,all the town hives are cranking  with between 2 and 3 boxes  of brood and some have almost finished capping the first super ,lots of cabbage tree in flower and heaps of dandelion, unfortunatley had to feed almost all the hives in the country but looks like kamahi is going to crank up very soon .three weeks ago the country hives had quite a bit of dandelion stored but the bees have eaten it all

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1 hour ago, dansar said:

Is the a nectar flow coming in? Adding foundation frames may be worse than putting in the honey pollen ones as the bees can move the honey around to make room for the queen, also feed to new grubs. If there are enough bees it might pay to put another box on anyway to give them space and something to work on.

There is a double FD brood box and a super above the excluder.

There is a big kamahi flow but we have had 4 days of cloud and no wind.

I will monitor the situation , I would hate her to run out of room and swarm .

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