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OK Team ..... Manuka is starting to flower, Kanuka is thinking about it, Honey dew is flat tack and Clover in Canterbury is gonna be the mother of all seasons. So, this begs the question .... are we any closer to a resolution on the Manuka standard as the bees  are almost ready and contracts are sitting on the table waiting to be signed, but we need to know what we are signing up for ....

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9 minutes ago, jamesc said:

are we any closer to a resolution on the Manuka standard as the bees

Short answer and the long answer.  No.

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6 minutes ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

Short answer and the long answer.  No.

Oh .... so the long answer is anything still goes ... Ruatoria kanuka is still Manuka ?

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Like the sound of a mother of all clover flow, who needs manuka ??

You home @jamesc? Ill give you a bell my messages options been cut apparently ??

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The honey industry is a funny affair.

The dairy industry is pretty sure at the beginning of the season as to what the pay out will be.

We know exactly what our weaner deer will make us when they go to the works after christmas. We are reasonably confident about the beef schedule. And sheep .... well we turned the sheep shed into the bee workshop so they are not the issue .... BUT when it come to making the big decision on where to place over $2,000,000  worth of bees to gather the best return on investment, nobody will hazard a guess or venture a price as to what the honey will be worth. Something 'aint right here.

 

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8 minutes ago, Jaspur M said:

Like the sound of a mother of all clover flow, who needs manuka ??

You home @jamesc? Ill give you a bell my messages options been cut apparently ??

Yep .... I'm home every night til we start chasing some nectar. Maybe you've been a naughty boy ?

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Yup exactly, how completely hopeless is MPI to still leave us hanging with decisions on where we place our hives and even if we should bother putting honey boxes on.

with so much unsold honey sitting in storage off the back of a bad season what will the market place be like if we have a boomer :(

one sure way of bringing an industry to its knees is to have a govt department sticking its nose in.

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2 minutes ago, frazzledfozzle said:

Yup exactly, how completely hopeless is MPI to still leave us hanging with decisions on where we place our hives and even if we should bother putting honey boxes on.

with so much unsold honey sitting in storage off the back of a bad season what will the market place be like if we have a boomer :(

It must be a very difficult time for some  commercial beeks now .

With market uncertainty and over stocking of areas and stealing of hives . all the fun must be  going out of it .

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It'll be alright on the night frazz .... Jacinda gonna sort it.

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12 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Yep .... I'm home every night til we start chasing some nectar. Maybe you've been a naughty boy ?

Haha yeah mate to naughty for my own good, just tried ringing yah but no reply..

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1 minute ago, kaihoka said:

It must be a very difficult time for some  commercial beeks now .

With market uncertainty and over stocking of areas and stealing of hives . all the fun must be  going out of it .

Ah no, Oh Windswept One ... this is the time of year we live for ..... the hard yards are almost done and  we is sat at the High Rollers table about to place our bets. It would be just nice to know what the odds are.

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1 minute ago, Jaspur M said:

Haha yeah mate to naughty for my own good, just tried ringing yah but no reply..

Cell or home .... cell don't work at home.

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31 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Cell or home .... cell don't work at home.

Home # mate [snip]

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29 minutes ago, Jaspur M said:

Home # mate <snip>

Uhhuh, but thats confidential ....:P    try now .

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2 hours ago, jamesc said:

OK Team ..... Manuka is starting to flower, Kanuka is thinking about it, Honey dew is flat tack and Clover in Canterbury is gonna be the mother of all seasons. So, this begs the question .... are we any closer to a resolution on the Manuka standard as the bees  are almost ready and contracts are sitting on the table waiting to be signed, but we need to know what we are signing up for ....

Go for the Clover 

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44 minutes ago, jamesc said:

Ah no, Oh Windswept One ... this is the time of year we live for ..... the hard yards are almost done and  we is sat at the High Rollers table about to place our bets. It would be just nice to know what the odds are.

Play it safe, 
Pay the bills

Get through the season and live to see the next.

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Of course there is the possibility of war in which case demand for  Manuka Honey may increase but the odds are long and not the sort of thing one should rely on

Although there are some beeks that are hoping 

 

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1 hour ago, jamesc said:

Ah no, Oh Windswept One ... this is the time of year we live for ..... the hard yards are almost done and  we is sat at the High Rollers table about to place our bets. It would be just nice to know what the odds are.

I have heard that clover honey always pays well.

Are you expecting a bumper clover year because of all the soil moisture in Canterbury after the wet winter.

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22 hours ago, jamesc said:

T the big decision on where to place over $2,000,000  worth of bees

 

that's, what, about 2000 hives in the books of some outfits right?

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22 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

one sure way of bringing an industry to its knees is to have a govt department sticking its nose in.

little bit of a sidetrack. But maybe the breakup of the failed experiment that was MPI into smaller units might help? or am i being naively optimistic...

the level of incompetence of MPI across fisheries, across land use, across food standards including manuka, etc has been incredible - even by bureaucratic standards

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hang on. I'm off to check out some manuka sites over the next four days. It's still worth gambling on the goldmine right? Or should i not even bother assembling all those boxes?

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5 minutes ago, tommy dave said:

hang on. I'm off to check out some manuka sites over the next four days. It's still worth gambling on the goldmine right? Or should i not even bother assembling all those boxes?

You gotta check out the sites .... and you gotta build the boxes ..... but don't gamble the house on the goldmine

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29 minutes ago, tommy dave said:

hang on. I'm off to check out some manuka sites over the next four days. It's still worth gambling on the goldmine right? Or should i not even bother assembling all those boxes?

Go for gold but just be aware you might not be able to sell it.

So don’t outlay too much getting it.

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Short memories.....how long (short) ago was it that Min Agriculture, Min Fisheries, Min Forestry all got amalgamated ? About the same time NZR got sold ? With a bit of luck

that stupid offshoot called assure quality will disappear too.

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Uh ... we have another audit coming up .... cost $1100. Not a lot has changed since the last audit :13_upside_down:

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