Popular Post Shaun 1,555 Posted August 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2017 a little bit unusual to find sister queens this time of the year but here they are. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 [ATTACH=full]18176[/ATTACH]a little bit unusual to find sister queens this time of the year but here they are. are they mother and daughter? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Daley 4,351 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) are they mother and daughter? I'd say so, it's likely thats mum on the left Edited August 7, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisM 1,277 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) probably cheaper to take photos, because that is working great too Edited August 7, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'd say so, it's likely thats mum on the left That's what I thought 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Stockley 3,417 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 probably cheaper to take photos, because that is working great too Haha yeah nice if you have a spare pair of hands to hold the camera, eh @Sil29er (y) Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It's a real art to hold a frame in one hand and sort the phone out to take photo with the other Link to post Share on other sites
Sil29er 284 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Haha yeah nice if you have a spare pair of hands to hold the camera, eh @Sil29er (y) Yeah, one of us drives (or something like that) and the other takes proof hehe... Link to post Share on other sites
Sil29er 284 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It's a real art to hold a frame in one hand and sort the phone out to take photo with the other Frames you can rest on top of the other frames, top bar combs are a bit more fragile, but on a calm day it can be done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
P K Tan 1,630 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It's a real art to hold a frame in one hand and sort the phone out to take photo with the other smartphone camera can come with voice activation and no need to press button. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisM 1,277 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 smartphone camera can come with voice activation and no need to press button. So i suppose you just say "click"?? Link to post Share on other sites
yesbut 6,232 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 So i suppose you just say "click"?? After three hours of trying to program the thing the magic word is bound to turn out to be something like ah####e ! Link to post Share on other sites
P K Tan 1,630 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 So i suppose you just say "click"?? My samsung S7 is cheese, capture, shoot or take video. Have not tried if I change language. Other brand may be different. Link to post Share on other sites
geraldb 4 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I'd say so, it's likely thats mum on the left So what is the outlook for the two Queens? An early swarm, or a fight and death of one? Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,976 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 So what is the outlook for the two Queens? An early swarm, or a fight and death of one? If it's mum and daughter they can live side by side for an indeterminate amount of time until mum retires and disappears . Link to post Share on other sites
john berry 5,636 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I would squash the one with the most carniolan regardless of which ones older but then I am biased against them. If you really don't care (and you should) then just leave them to it. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisM 1,277 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) If it happened to a hobby bk (the queens not the glasses). Would anyone recommend to split the hive into two nuc's then to wait and see? The supersedure could be because the old one is failing, or it could be that you've just done a split with zero risk. If either queen is a dud it is easy to recombine having eliminated the dud. If neither is a dud depending on who is the best performer you might recombine accordingly and donate the spare queen to someone who needs one. Worst case is that they do yet another supersedure and you pick up a third queen in a month or two (?). Edited August 9, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites
Charles 354 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 [ATTACH=full]18176[/ATTACH]a little bit unusual to find sister queens this time of the year but here they are. I've seen three Q's in a hive that have over wintered, but only once. Two Q's is quite common in commercial opps that requeen with cells in the autumn Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Gillbanks 6,847 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 If it happened to a hobby bk (the queens not the glasses).Would anyone recommend to split the hive into two nuc's then to wait and see? The supersedure could be because the old one is failing, or it could be that you've just done a split with zero risk. If either queen is a dud it is easy to recombine having eliminated the dud. If neither is a dud depending on who is the best performer you might recombine accordingly and donate the spare queen to someone who needs one. Worst case is that they do yet another supersedure and you pick up a third queen in a month or two (?). Yep. That is what I always do. However, it is too early in the season for me to make any splits. Link to post Share on other sites
Daley 4,351 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 If it happened to a hobby bk (the queens not the glasses).Would anyone recommend to split the hive into two nuc's then to wait and see? The supersedure could be because the old one is failing, or it could be that you've just done a split with zero risk. If either queen is a dud it is easy to recombine having eliminated the dud. If neither is a dud depending on who is the best performer you might recombine accordingly and donate the spare queen to someone who needs one. Worst case is that they do yet another supersedure and you pick up a third queen in a month or two (?). Nope. I wouldn't do that. One of them is likely no good, I usually squash the old one or leave them to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun 1,555 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 However, it is too early in the season for me to make any splits. When I found them I briefly considered splitting or removing one queen but being too early in the season for any new queens I decided the bees knew best and left them as they were. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisM 1,277 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 fair enough. My thinking in hobbyist-world was that I wouldn't need a new queen (you already have two) so dividing them into two nucleus colonies just keeps the two queens apart if there was enough bees and resources from a strong hive. As a beginner/hobbyist I'm not going to take bets on who is the best queen or which one goes swimming in meths. Once the best one is identified it is easy enough to bring them back together with the good queen.. Knowing my luck, the younger queen could be a poorly mated and would fail as soon as mum was gone. Anyway, it is not a beginner thread, so sorry for the distraction. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) I think there is a reason for 2 queens in that hive, the hive has obviously superceded their queen but also decided to keep her alive. No brood break, everything keeps ticking along until everyone is sure the new queen is laying and doing a good job. It is a no-risk supercedure scenario in my opinion, I wouldn't mess with that. As for the progressive lenses, it is a bit like all things that can do multiple things at once, they are not really designed to do one thing particularly well. If I want to see something detailed very well I will chose a good pair of reading glasses over progressives any time. It pays to get a good pair of readers when you get to my age ;-) Edited August 10, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites
Shaun 1,555 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 As for the progressive lenses, it is a bit like all things that can do multiple things at once, they are not really designed to do one thing particularly well. If I want to see something detailed very well I will chose a good pair of reading glasses over progressives any time. It pays to get a good pair of readers when you get to my age The Idea of the progressive lens for beekeeping is put them on before the veil gets zipped up and then work the apiary. I have reading glasses for the computer and newspaper and you are correct they are much better for that purpose. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dansar 5,524 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) I think there is a reason for 2 queens in that hive, the hive has obviously superceded their queen but also decided to keep her alive. No brood break, everything keeps ticking along until everyone is sure the new queen is laying and doing a good job. It is a no-risk supercedure scenario in my opinion, I wouldn't mess with that. As for the progressive lenses, it is a bit like all things that can do multiple things at once, they are not really designed to do one thing particularly well. If I want to see something detailed very well I will chose a good pair of reading glasses over progressives any time. It pays to get a good pair of readers when you get to my age I knew you were older than you looked!:rolleyes::whistle: Edited August 10, 2017 by Guest Link to post Share on other sites
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