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That's cause you are a north island softie.

Over 40 years ago I spent three days canoeing the peloris river while attending Outward Bound. I would like to say I remember the beauty and tranquility but mostly I remember the bone chilling cold wi

I have to find another 6 sites, one Kanuka/bush site owner wants 75$ per hive and the others are after no less than $50 plus honey??? Last year I made a 35$ profit on all these sites and after paying

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Paying for sites would be fine if you didn't have to compete against idiots who make offers they have no intention of honouring or spin merchants who convince farmers that the stocking rate can be increased by 800%. You also run into the problem that as soon as neighbours here there's money involved more hives arrive overnight and the site you offered good money for is now virtually valueless. New beekeepers come along all the time but the only way they can gain sites is to stick them too close to someone else or replace existing beekeepers usually by offering unsustainable payments. The bubble isn't about to burst, it has been well and truly popped by greed and ignorance. 

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2 minutes ago, john berry said:

Paying for sites would be fine if you didn't have to compete against idiots who make offers they have no intention of honouring or spin merchants who convince farmers that the stocking rate can be increased by 800%. You also run into the problem that as soon as neighbours here there's money involved more hives arrive overnight and the site you offered good money for is now virtually valueless. New beekeepers come along all the time but the only way they can gain sites is to stick them too close to someone else or replace existing beekeepers usually by offering unsustainable payments. The bubble isn't about to burst, it has been well and truly popped by greed and ignorance. 

We been beekeeper for almost 12 years and this time is getting worst of some beekeepers offering big money even they know theres another beekeeper already, no respect.

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2 hours ago, frazzledfozzle said:

I think they will be “manuka” sites I don’t see anyone up this way paying $50 a hive for Bush honey and if they did in previous years they won’t be under the new Manuka standard if in fact the standard is as high and rigid as some people are saying.

It was supposed to be a Manuka site but local knowledge including DOC knew it was kanuka.

The migrants who have been coming here for years have their hives on DOC land ,some of it Manuka.

They have been coming here before the Manuka boom.

I am not sure what they pay .

Probably more each year knowing DOC .

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On 12/28/2017 at 2:48 PM, frazzledfozzle said:

$50 a hive for kanuka or bush !!  ...just walk away.

why be involved with someone who has this mentality.

I have to find another 6 sites, one Kanuka/bush site owner wants 75$ per hive and the others are after no less than $50 plus honey??? Last year I made a 35$ profit on all these sites and after paying the land owners I ran them at a loss. I'm pretty much paying to put them there.

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18 minutes ago, Maru Hoani said:

I have to find another 6 sites, one Kanuka/bush site owner wants 75$ per hive and the others are after no less than $50 plus honey??? Last year I made a 35$ profit on all these sites and after paying the land owners I ran them at a loss. I'm pretty much paying to put them there.

This is getting crazy.  There is no way this stupidity can keep on.  However the media hype it all up so farmers/landowners are getting more and more greedy.

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15 hours ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

  However the media hype it all up so farmers/landowners are getting more and more greedy.

If the rates invoice for my modest patch is anything to go by, these landowners can't really be faulted for wanting to maximise their returns. I guess it depends which feet the shoes are on.

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16 hours ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

This is getting crazy.  There is no way this stupidity can keep on.  However the media hype it all up so farmers/landowners are getting more and more greedy.

but there is plenty more beeks that will go gold digging. land owners will keep dangling the carrot for as long as they can.

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5 hours ago, kaihoka said:

If the new Manuka honey standards adjust the price of a lot of honey down and it is unrealistic for beeks to pay for some sites

 

Yes, and it should mean there's more value in planted sites i.e. plant known Manuka seed, for honey that exceeds the definition and is high UMF...

 

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7 hours ago, yesbut said:

On my latest coffee expedition via the hill shortcut I noticed the manuka in full swing and not a hive to be seen. The local commercial hasn't put his bees up there this year .

GPS location please ....:18_kissing_heart: ..... of the coffee.

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