flash4cash 262 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 So saw this article. A little concerning. Looks like it will make it here for sure 1 day. Deadly myrtle rust endangers manuka and pohutukawa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yesbut 6,169 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Old news Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jas 437 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yup its here already ! Has been found in a Kerikeri nursery . Todays herald had a write up about it . They seem to think it arrived on the wind , if true then one would expect it to be more established than just plants in a nursery . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cyathea 354 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 What a bummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnF 709 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yup its here already ! Has been found in a Kerikeri nursery . Todays herald had a write up about it . They seem to think it arrived on the wind , if true then one would expect it to be more established than just plants in a nursery . Always going to be found somewhere the first time. Could be in the neighbouring nursery too that they'll find tomorrow? Wonder if that dirty Debbie brought it in?? (Cyclone Debbie). Its always been a 'when' not 'if' scenario - the spores are too small and carried in the Jetstream. I do not know that there is definite evidence that manuka and kanuka are in trouble - they are of the myrtaceous family. Attached is a new fact sheet from MPI - worth a look at the photos and note the request NOT to take a possible infection sample 2017-Myrtle-Rust-Fact-Sheet-May-17.pdf 2017-Myrtle-Rust-Fact-Sheet-May-17.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamesc 4,628 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Oh dear ... this looks serious if we are advised to not move from the spot and phone for help to decontaminate ourselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikwezinz 96 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 This isn't good news, hope they can contain it Potentially deadly disease to pohutukawa and manuka arrives in Northland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yes this will be a disaster if it spreads across country, it does affect many of the trees, bees forage on. Lets hope it has been contained in the Kerikeri Area Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisM 1,226 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Might this keep all the big bad beekeepers out of Northland for a season? If so, where would they go? It might cause some problems via a whole series of unintended consequences and contracts. If the rust jumps on to kumara and dope plants the northland economy might struggle. Regarding a GIA, imagine how much money they could waste and still achieve nothing.. If O'Connor doesn't know if there is a GIA or not, then he's not much use is he? Forest and Bird says there needs to be a swift response, but what does that mean, do we start looking for new planets in a far off galaxy? Maybe we move all our iconic species to a place where all the hot air comes from so that the rust can't penetrate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frazzledfozzle 7,420 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Imagine if we had signed a GIA we would all be digging around in our wallets for the money MPI would demand of us to "fight" the incursion. Off the back of a very poor season it would have been a business breaker for some of us. I remember all too well the money involved in the varroa eradication attempt I would never trust a govt department to spend my hard earned money wisely 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kiwifruiter 605 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 It is slightly sad to know that others will now be going though what the kiwifruit industry has been through. Hopefully once we are out of northland the weather conditions will not be as ideal for it and the plants can fight it off.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,935 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 It is slightly sad to know that others will now be going though what the kiwifruit industry has been through. Hopefully once we are out of northland the weather conditions will not be as ideal for it and the plants can fight it off.... One of the articles I read had opinions from a Northland nursery man who said the queensland plants had taken a hit but resistant strains had emerged and there was a recovery happening. I would expect the same thing here. I would foresee bigger problems in areas where the myrtle was under pressure from constant predation. Not a problem for Manuka but rata and pohutukawa could take a big hit . Especially if animals did not like the taste of the rust and only ate the unaffected leaves . Or best case they ate the rust leaves . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Gillbanks 6,757 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Especially if animals did not like the taste of the rust and only ate the unaffected leaves . What animals in New Zealand eat Manuka. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Stockley 3,417 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 What animals in New Zealand eat Manuka. I think the suggestion was that Manuka wouldn't be affected. Not a problem for Manuka but rata and pohutukawa could take a big hit . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Gillbanks 6,757 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I think the suggestion was that Manuka wouldn't be affected. only ate the unaffected leaves I don't see that is the suggestion. Maybe you read another post. Or maybe it is just Monday'itis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frazzledfozzle 7,420 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I think it's you that has the mondayitis @Trevor Gillbanks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,935 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I don't see that is the suggestion. Maybe you read another post. Or maybe it is just Monday'itis What animals in New Zealand eat Manuka. Nothing eats Manuka that's why it won't be stressed by being constantly eaten if it gets rust. But if a rata or pohutukawa is affected by rust and is constantly under pressure from being grazed upon by possums it will succumb to disease quickly. Possums eat the new growth by preference so rust and possums could defoliate a tree pretty quickly . I live in an area with lots of rata and TB controlhave eliminated the possums from the area and I can see a difference in the forest. Esp in the new growth . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Stockley 3,417 Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I don't see that is the suggestion. Maybe you read another post. Or maybe it is just Monday'itis Mondayitis on a Sunday must be particularly troubling. You need to read that bit in context. Not a problem for Manuka but rata and pohutukawa could take a big hit .Especially if animals did not like the taste of the rust and only ate the unaffected leaves . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Gillbanks 6,757 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I think it's you that has the mondayitis @Trevor Gillbanks ! Mondayitis on a Sunday must be particularly troubling. Obviously no one is getting my dig. so no matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dansar 5,467 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Nothing eats Manuka that's why it won't be stressed by being constantly eaten if it gets rust.But if a rata or pohutukawa is affected by rust and is constantly under pressure from being grazed upon by possums it will succumb to disease quickly. Possums eat the new growth by preference so rust and possums could defoliate a tree pretty quickly . I live in an area with lots of rata and TB controlhave eliminated the possums from the area and I can see a difference in the forest. Esp in the new growth . These two beasties love Manuka. Sometimes to the point of stripping a plant of all its foliage. T.E.R:R.A.I.N - Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network - Beetle (Chafer) (Manuka) Pyronota festiva Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frazzledfozzle 7,420 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Obviously no one is getting my dig. so no matter. I still don't get it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor Gillbanks 6,757 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I still don't get it It was a joke with @Rob Stockley. He just needed 2 bites of the cherry. Of course I know it is Sunday today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,935 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I still don't get it Neither did I. Must be all that Gusathion we ingested as kids Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Stockley 3,417 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I still don't get it Me either. Perhaps it's a Palmerston North thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaihoka 2,935 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 These two beasties love Manuka. Sometimes to the point of stripping a plant of all its foliage.T.E.R:R.A.I.N - Taranaki Educational Resource: Research, Analysis and Information Network - Beetle (Chafer) (Manuka) Pyronota festiva You are right , I was thinking of mammals. I occasionally see those beetles here but not as many as I used to see around Nelson lakes national parks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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