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Hi All, I don't have time to follow every chat group, but I got a notification about this one.  I'm interested in your experiences with OA/gly in NZ, so please feel free to contact me directly at

You are obviously still young . I try and leave the bathroom before the steam has cleared .

This is an issue that comes up often There tends to be two ways that Beeks place Staples and one way results in less Brood damage. Some Beeks remove an edge frame, spread the remaining frames o

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4 minutes ago, yesbut said:

My arms are still swollen from no tape during the black Q episode.

I must admit I do like a fat striped queen.. to look at.. soon as I open the lid and see the note stating queen the sleeves come down and the swearing starts, no mercy. 

Specially if weather is marginal or it’s early and everyone’s still home.. pinching the mutts is so enjoyable. 

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8 hours ago, Philbee said:

 

I use polythene tape

 

 I think most who read a monumentally funny post by Merk several years ago would have stopped using tape for cuffs, either that or always carry spare suit etc  - possibly well before Philbee started beekeeping.

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Unfortunately Maggie, Phil claims this sewing machine infringes on his patent.

 

So i have not completed the purchase of it. ?

 

Four needled beast of a thing that it was, I was looking forward to figuring out how to use it. 

 

But never mind. Since buying staples is denied me, I will proceed with making my own one way or another. In fact i already have a bunch of pretty mean home made ones and am looking forward to research and improvement, and eliminating some of the issues around OA / Glycerine use over time. This has been forced upon me, but as they say, necessity is the mother of invention. ?

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9 minutes ago, Alastair said:

Unfortunately Maggie, Phil claims this sewing machine infringes on his patent.

 

So i have not completed the purchase of it. ?

 

Four needled beast of a thing that it was, I was looking forward to figuring out how to use it. 

 

But never mind. Since buying staples is denied me, I will proceed with making my own one way or another. In fact i already have a bunch of pretty mean home made ones and am looking forward to research and improvement, and eliminating some of the issues around OA / Glycerine use over time. This has been forced upon me, but as they say, necessity is the mother of invention. ?

I would be surprised if someone with the skills and access to the mountain of moth-balled paper and cardboard making machinery around the country does not see the opportunity, and set-up a specialised fibre based product with the structural integrity to eliminate all the sewing.

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15 hours ago, Philbee said:

If you had wanted to make staples for yourself I would have gladly pointed you to the correct machine.

I have left provision in the NZ, Aust and USA patents for people to do this.
The machine pictured is the wrong machine on two counts.

One of those counts is due to its gauge of needle spacing.

That count causes any staple produced on that machine for any sort of gain and infringement of the NZ patent

The second count that makes this machine inapt at producing a staple is to do with its elasticator puller.

 

 

Is it possible to patent a straight line of sewing with a specific count?  Sewing machines have been round since the industrial revolution.  

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2 hours ago, Sailabee said:

 

 I think most who read a monumentally funny post by Merk several years ago would have stopped using tape for cuffs, either that or always carry spare suit etc  - possibly well before Philbee started beekeeping.

Lol

Yes and that is why packaging tape is better than Poly tape.
Packaging tape will allow the sleeve to slide out of its grip if pulled hard enough

44 minutes ago, Sailabee said:

I would be surprised if someone with the skills and access to the mountain of moth-balled paper and cardboard making machinery around the country does not see the opportunity, and set-up a specialised fibre based product with the structural integrity to eliminate all the sewing.

Join the queue,

There are numerous entities trying this right now.
Even one University.

There are countless Beeks using Cardboard also.

 

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1 hour ago, Trevor Gillbanks said:

C'mon @Alastair and @Philbee Let's tone it done a bit.  Everyone is getting rather tired of these personal attacks.

If the only way you can communicate is by constant swipes at each other then the moderators will take some direct action.

You are both to blame, so please don't point at each other.

 

I have given a lot of tolerance to this thread but I can close it and then delete the thread so all information will be lost.

Your thread also @Alastair

 

Sorry for the heavy hand but I have more things to do than police the kindergarten play yard. 

I personally think the thread has run it's course and should be parked somewhere as a resource.
 

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9 hours ago, Philbee said:

I personally think the thread has run it's course and should be parked somewhere as a resource.
 

 

9 hours ago, Alastair said:

 

Yes please go ahead and delete my threads. Waste of time me posting them, I'll do my own work.

 

I don't want to kill either thread.  

I just want them toned down.

Let's see how it goes.

 

Thanks

 

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2 threads i started, being an oxalic one and a box splitting one, were started with the intention of being helpful to all, but ended up being a waste and better they had not been created. I say get rid of them. They are a waste.

 

Can i block certain people from my threads?

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10 minutes ago, Alastair said:

 

Can i block certain people from my threads?

That carry on can destroy cohesiveness for the rest of us I think.  Personalising things in a negative way is just hopeless on forums. 

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12 minutes ago, Alastair said:

2 threads i started, being an oxalic one and a box splitting one, were started with the intention of being helpful to all, but ended up being a waste and better they had not been created. I say get rid of them. They are a waste.

 

Can i block certain people from my threads?

 

1 minute ago, yesbut said:

That carry on can destroy cohesiveness for the rest of us I think.  Personalising things in a negative way is just hopeless on forums. 

 

I agree with @yesbut I would prefer your threads to stay open.  They have been very informative to those of use who read them with an open mind.  The box splitting is particularly helpful, specially to less experienced beekeepers.

@Alastair I do not know if you can prevent someone from posting to a thread, but you can certainly block someone so that you cannot see their posts.  However, that can make it very disjointed when viewing any thread that that person has posted to.  That though only effects the person doing the blocking.

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I'd only have to block one person and that would remove all negativeness.

7 minutes ago, yesbut said:

 Personalising things in a negative way is just hopeless on forums. 

 

I'd only have to block one person and that would remove all negativeness.

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