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  2. From.your description I think I have very little southern rata honey here .
  3. Im basically describing how the next 18 months could pan out in Beekeeping with regard AFB and Varroa Thing is that the policy makers are mostly removed or insulated from the realities of Beekeeping. These policy makers have recent historical data that in most circumstances would be relevant, only in our case right now it probably isnt. On the face of it its simple. Market down turn = Less honey produced overall from fewer Hives belonging to fewer Beekeepers. Simple Business reality. Get over it, move on. However the king hit will come from the blind side and thats the effects of thousands of redundant Hives sitting in paddocks untreated and un checked. My parallel example with regard geopolitics fill the history books Its not the serious problem you face square on that will hurt you, its the strike from the Blind side that can do the most damage with the least effort The context of this relates to budgets Im saying spend the money even if they dont have it because the problem will only get worse as the industry shrinks "They" is not the Beekeepers because they have no money Or means to raise money
  4. I’m going to try a few hives with the strips cut in half. Suspended with a toothpick and zigzagging them throughout the box.
  5. I feel calling vipers bugloss as Blue Borage is the same as calling Kanuka as Manuka
  6. The reality is that is how some beekeepers see it, and those beekeepers are entitled to an opinion, and they recognise as I stated before it is generally the beekeepers who can't or won't detect AFB or minimise the risk in their operation that cause the problem i.e. laziness. Ill health and staff issues can also increase AFB incidences. It is good that we are having major inspections/detections, but if these were to become the norm forever and a day, there could be some beekeepers thinking - oh well an AP2 will be round soon, I'll leave the inspection to them.
  7. You’ve lost me Phil - are you talking about the missile attack on the Iranisn general, launched by the USA? Or fighting AFB ? !
  8. I would say anything placed it a beehive is very quickly spread to all corners, perhaps a glycerine and food colouring or blue light dye test could be done to show this. The constant movement of the bees to all areas including inside the cells surely means this is the case.
  9. Maggie this is a popular opinion but i don't think it is actually the case. The levies the "good" beekeepers pay are not subsidising the "bad" beekeepers. The money the "good" beekeepers are paying, is being used to deal to the bad beekeepers, and keep the "good" beekeepers free of contamination, or at least relatively free. The levy the "good" beekeepers are paying, is working for them. It can be compared to the tax money that "good" people pay, that is used for the police budget. The good people do not need a visit from the police, but they do need police, to deal to the baddies, and thereby protect the "good" people. On another issue re training. My own personal belief is that a person can be trained to recognise AFB in 5 minutes. The recidivist AFB spreading beekeepers are often not due to ignorance of the disease, it is due to laziness. A lot of these folks can recognise AFB, but they just don't get in the hives and do the work. It is harder to motivate some people to expend the energy and do the work, than it is to teach them to recognise AFB.
  10. The N. Rata is light amber while the S.rata is water white and I dont think the N Rata goes like concrete if it is not creamed.
  11. Honey sampling is a cheap diagnostic tool, and the fines could help fund the AFBPMP
  12. Hmmm..... Canterbury it would seem is the NZ capital for not just AFB, but M Bovis also. 🦉
  13. Still be truthful in what you sell.You cannot tell the difference between S and N Rata in the frames but it is not the frames you are selling,it is the honey extracted from these frames and you can differentiate then.It is great telling people the difference between N and S Rata trees, so many people do not know.
  14. That is precisely what I am trying to do...
  15. Couldn't agree more. I find myself constantly checking that the sky is still blue. Are you referring to the government's unexpectedly high surplus and the consequent likelihood of NZTA digging up your road ? Sounds a bit like you are talking about my current account.
  16. How can you tell the ratas apart in the frames . What colour is northern rata . It would be very hard to get the consumer to start calling borage honey ,echium honey . It would be a marketing disaster .
  17. Yes fair comment. However in life, love and war it most often isnt the problem at hand that floors you. One example is the current geopolitical environment. There are lots of really serious issues happening but none are existential and thats because they for the most part are apparent and confronting, there are huge forces focusing on containment and deescalation. Its the attack from the blind side that will take you out, the unexpected. My overall point is that given the current economic climate and the way it's trending, things can and probably will change at an unprecedented rate. Its those changes that have the potential to completely overwhelm the already critically stretched systems currently in place. This principle can be applied to the AFB and also the Varroa issues we currently have
  18. Who said there was none North of the Harbour Bridge ?
  19. My brother and I have somewhat different views on AFB control. I tend to side with education and helping beekeepers with problems get up to speed. My brother feels that it's better just to put up with the AFB that comes over the fence and deal with it when it comes but leave the offending beekeeper alone to get there well-deserved Darwin award. It's certainly disheartening to spend a lot of time helping somebody learn how to identify and control AFB only to have them dump hives across the fence from you. AFB has been in New Zealand for a long time and there have been good and bad beekeepers for the same length of time. Personally I think the system has some flaws but it has improved and is also starting to show some teeth. The alternative is no inspections and therefore no control over rogue beekeepers. Deliberately spreading AFB has also become a lot more common with some pretty well known figures in the beekeeping industry having the finger pointed at them with a fair bit of justification. I would like to see the compulsory testing of bulk honey to find out which beekeepers have high spore levels so that they can be targeted for both inspection and education. I would like to also see a mandatory one million-dollar fine for sending in a deliberately falsified sample. There has never really been a problem with identifying and eliminating AFB. The problem has always been identifying which beekeepers to target.
  20. If there's meant to be workshops as described in the PMS for approved beekeepers to meet, how can beekeepers be encouraged to these meetings? Many have never attended a meeting. Taking into account activity with surveillance in the past year, one would like to think this meeting activity is also in the pipeline. One of the reasons "we currently seem to be trying to find and destroy AFB hives faster than beekeepers can create them" is probably due to the fact that over the past 12 months problem areas and beekeepers have been targeted, therefore this could account for some of the rise in AFB cases. It would be nice to think that this is a temporary phase, and then the PMP could get on with what it was set up to do, but if some of the predictions are correct with those forecasting a surge in abandoned hives, this intense surveillance activity may well be with us for sometime.
  21. I get annoyed that everyone calls vipers bugloss blue borage when it is not.Like not naming the ratas sepertately.N Rata honey is a completely different colour to S.Rata. SI label my honey true to variety after getting the pollen analysis back.
  22. As Alastair has said, I think things have already improved ! Look back over the 4 (3 ?) 'outbreak' cases that hit the media. Where were such reports 5 years ago ? There is a new broom in the system and as I said to someone at the conference, think of the current plan as dating as far back as 2017. To keep bashing on about things in the 1990s is pointless - most of the beekeepers here weren't around then and tools/times have also changed (OK, not Apiweb ). As UK comedian said "I'd have 10 dollars on the Dalai Lama if I was a Tibetan man"
  23. The last sentence of this paragraph says it all. There is a problem for some beekeepers who are paying enormous levies and have their AFB under control, that they are subsidising others who can't or won't detect AFB or run their operation in a manner to minimise the issue. Essentially the latter group are blugging off the good beekeepers. Some of the people dealt with lately should have been dealt with decades ago, and would have saved much grief for others. I believe, that beekeepers have to help eradicate AFB from NZ, but those long term recidivists and the inexperienced causing difficulties must be dealt with firmly.
  24. yeah.... isnt it viper's bugloss (and echium)? very different to the borage i also have at home... thought u can call it blue borage supposedly, but that seems odd as borage also has blue flowers (just had to do it yesbut! 😉 )
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